Babbling 'brook

It’s unusual for a post this long to get every sentence wrong. This sentence game me a laugh considering what followed it... Carbery was told to move, he was put under a lot of pressure. After he was told Sexton, Carbery and Byrne were all picked for the Australia tour. Carbery had 10 caps before t...

In fairness, your Beckham analogy that nobody's too big to move on is more accurately applied to Johnny and Racing.... which is whole nother kettle of fish! And certainly one that I would not be comfortable discussing amongst the faithful! The whole point of a "nobody is too big to move on&quo...

Number 2 out half in the country capped for Ireland, a nailed on pick for the World Cup Squad and regularly playing European football when not injured. You’ve also killed your David Beckham analogy on top of that foolishness. Phfew, must be quiet in whatever part of Leinster Rugby you are deeply in...

CiaranIrl wrote:Well I'm convinced now anyway. I'm glad they took Carbery and I hope Munster poach more of our best players. I never realized until now what harm the good young players were doing.

Carbery wasn't one of our best players. Prospects maybe but he definitely wasn't one of our best players

@Workhorse But this is the thing man, Carberry was 22, was literally plucked out of the blue into pro rugby maybe two years before hand. He absolutely handn't a clue of the implications of his move. I made a hell of a lot of terrible decisions in my 20's and honestly if Joe Schmidt told me to jump ...

I actually agree on your Manchester United analogy, even though it pains me as a long-time fan of the noisy neighbours. However, there are 2 flaws in your argument (no analogy is perfect, in fairness): 1. Leinster wanted to keep Carbery and have made no secret of that since. He was under contract a...

Ferguson got rid of Beckham, Leinster did not get rid of Carbery. I don't get the United analogy at all, I am a United fan, it just seems like waffle. You are saying Leinster needed to get rid of Joey for the development of others and then saluting Munster for dumping players for the development of...

mildlyinterested wrote:spinning it that it was a good thing for leinster that Carbery left mid-contract, is bizarre.

People would say the same about Beckham leaving Manchester United in 2003 but if he hadn't would Ronaldo have even been signed nevermind given the game time to develop?

Munster did not have Blyendaal under contract at the time?, they had not just given Keatley a new contract for the following season?, they did not have JJ? They did not have their own academy 10 Bill Johnston looking for some of his own opportunities?, they had no foresight that they also had a bun...

Carbery had a contract with Leinster, he was happy to fulfill that contract until the IRFU came in with the idea of moving him to ulster, which he rejected and then munster came into the equation, resulting in a meeting with Van Graan, and a final meeting with Schmidt to take 'advice'. His contract...

Surely it's in Leinster's interest to be making the decision on who stays and who goes? It's not like the coaches are incapable of selecting the best players and then the remainder are free to find another club? How is the IRFU making the decision for us better for Leinster? I mean, I get that it's...

When you didnt understand the question I went back over it to see if I could have been clearer. I could not. I think you understand the difference between "too many for your own good." and "too many for your own requirements". Is it not clear? If we kept all the quality players ...

It’s fine, you’re obviously annoyed or frustrated by something, unless you’re Joey Carbery or Joey Carberys Mam, Dad, or brother from another mother I’d suggest cracking a sneaky cold beer and enjoying the rest of the evening... Annoyed at people trying to push the blame for us losing a game onto s...

Oldschoolsocks wrote: Serious mickey waving there

Absolutely no mickey waving going on, just pointing out that having a realistic view of a situation and not looking around for someone else to blame for Leinster losing a final doesn't mean you're not a Leinster fan.

We? I dont think so. Oh and Carbery was a lock for the RWC squad short of his form falling off a cliff to a Madigan extent. His versatility is decisive. Ah yes because I'm not blind enough to ignore the possibility that professional rugby players might want to play as high a level of rugby as often...

You're determined to have an argument that doesn't exist, not interested. Let's leave it at we both agree it was a move engineered by Joe Schmidt and Lucifura, anything after that is whataboutery and semantics And you're determined to make it some sort of conspiracy to weaken Leinster to support th...

nobody seriously thinks that an uninjured Carbery wouldn't have got to that World Cup. He took Jean Kleyn ffs... Anything could have happened had Carbery not moved. What if Byrne over took him at Leinster? He wouldn't be going then. A player in a completely different position going is beyond irrele...

hey, I'm all for hyperbolae, but I never said it was a crime against He That Does Not EXIST. So I'm not sure what you're on about now. The move was engineered and everything you're saying is in agreement so I'm more than happy to leave it as is. P.S. He wasn't sitting on the bench he was playing re...

perfect, we're in agreement that this move was engineered by Joe Schmidt and Lucifora so. Nope telling a player they need to be first choice is not the same as engineering a move. And even if it was engineered, the IRFU and the national team head coach organising a move so an international player i...

easy tiger, you're slanting this as it being JC's idea, and the record shows that it was engineered by Joe Schmidt and Lucifura. That is attempting to rewrite history. Simples... I never even went close to slanting it as his choice. I just outlined why it was done and why it made sense for Carbery ...