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With the Irish rangecoming in august and all the Leinster kit heavily discounted on Lifestyle have we any idea when there might be some new gear?

Home jersey is def due a refresh.
best quote from croker was this old boy behind me after about 65 minutes when you could see the red jerseys flooding out of the place

"Lock the gates, make them watch"

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irishjonny wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 2:15 pm
With the Irish rangecoming in august and all the Leinster kit heavily discounted on Lifestyle have we any idea when there might be some new gear?

Home jersey is def due a refresh.
Not just that! Since Adidas took over our shorts are the same colour as the jerseys, making for a monotone, boring sartorial team/squad appearance, IMO. I would like very much, if went back to our traditional two-tone, with the shorts a darker shade of blue than the jersey.

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riocard911 wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 3:24 pm
irishjonny wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 2:15 pm
With the Irish rangecoming in august and all the Leinster kit heavily discounted on Lifestyle have we any idea when there might be some new gear?

Home jersey is def due a refresh.
Not just that! Since Adidas took over our shorts are the same colour as the jerseys, making for a monotone, boring sartorial team/squad appearance, IMO. I would like very much, if went back to our traditional two-tone, with the shorts a darker shade of blue than the jersey.
I don't think there is any Adidas kit which is not the same colour shorts and shirt. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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FLIP wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:19 pm
I don't think there is any Adidas kit which is not the same colour shorts and shirt. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quins anyway.

Then Blues (navy shorts), Canes (black v yellow jersey), Crusaders (black v red jersey).

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FLIP wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:19 pm
riocard911 wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 3:24 pm
irishjonny wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 2:15 pm
With the Irish rangecoming in august and all the Leinster kit heavily discounted on Lifestyle have we any idea when there might be some new gear?

Home jersey is def due a refresh.
Not just that! Since Adidas took over our shorts are the same colour as the jerseys, making for a monotone, boring sartorial team/squad appearance, IMO. I would like very much, if went back to our traditional two-tone, with the shorts a darker shade of blue than the jersey.
I don't think there is any Adidas kit which is not the same colour shorts and shirt. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Munster are supplied by Adidas and their shorts are a darker shade of red than the jerseys.

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Darker shorts subvert the inverted triangle.
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Morf wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:34 pm
FLIP wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:19 pm
I don't think there is any Adidas kit which is not the same colour shorts and shirt. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quins anyway.

Then Blues (navy shorts), Canes (black v yellow jersey), Crusaders (black v red jersey).
That's me told :shock:
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Dave Cahill wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 9:14 pm
Darker shorts subvert the inverted triangle.
Is that good or bad?

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FLIP wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 10:39 pm
Morf wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:34 pm
FLIP wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 6:19 pm
I don't think there is any Adidas kit which is not the same colour shorts and shirt. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Quins anyway.

Then Blues (navy shorts), Canes (black v yellow jersey), Crusaders (black v red jersey).
That's me told :shock:
Suntory Sungoliath, Toyota Verblitz, Nttdocomo Red Hurricanes.

Few more from the Top League too. Seems about 50/50 whether adidas go monotone.

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riocard911 wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 11:39 pm
Dave Cahill wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 9:14 pm
Darker shorts subvert the inverted triangle.
Is that good or bad?
Bad, an inverted triangle shape (broad shoulders, narrow hips) is perceived by our brains to be physically powerful. Its why you'll often see a 'disruptive' element on shirts around the sides of the torso and under the arms, or on the shorts
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Dave Cahill wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 8:42 am
riocard911 wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 11:39 pm
Dave Cahill wrote:
July 23rd, 2020, 9:14 pm
Darker shorts subvert the inverted triangle.
Is that good or bad?
Bad, an inverted triangle shape (broad shoulders, narrow hips) is perceived by our brains to be physically powerful. Its why you'll often see a 'disruptive' element on shirts around the sides of the torso and under the arms, or on the shorts
Maybe that’s the plan, be the anti Woodward. Teams think they can go through us when they can’t.

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Doubtful there'll be new kits this season, bit of a luxury purchase for fans who may not want to splash out in these "uncertain times", likely to be limited opportunities for fans to watch teams live until 2021 so again affecting numbers of jerseys sold if you can't water it to the game.

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Totally agree that the monotone look isn’t great, but can I add that I like to see a bit of hold on the jersey too. Especially on the harp

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TerenureJim wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 8:46 am
Doubtful there'll be new kits this season, bit of a luxury purchase for fans who may not want to splash out in these "uncertain times", likely to be limited opportunities for fans to watch teams live until 2021 so again affecting numbers of jerseys sold if you can't water it to the game.

Teams need cash and fans can’t spend cash going to games. Make a load of kits and use them for next year too. Assuming you can get a supply

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Dave Cahill wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 8:42 am
Bad, an inverted triangle shape (broad shoulders, narrow hips) is perceived by our brains to be physically powerful. Its why you'll often see a 'disruptive' element on shirts around the sides of the torso and under the arms, or on the shorts
2015-16 jersey was a good example. Big splash of white on the shoulders and then inverted chevrons in a darker colour at the base [link: https://rugbyshirtwatch.com/2015/08/19/ ... te-shirts/ ].

From my perspective, I thought it was a good jersey [not a great jersey]. Leave the white collar, take the white patches off the shoulder and that would have been a classic Leinster jersey. The 2014-15 European jersey, on the other hand, was an irredeemable abortion of a yoke. Goggles: https://rugbyshirtwatch.com/2014/08/06/ ... ean-shirt/ . That sh*t should never have been passed. One of the ugliest jerseys I have ever seen.

Of course, that is a totally subjective viewpoint. I understand that the manufacturer needs to make the jersey different enough each season that people want to, or feel obliged to, buy it.

From my point of view, the blue home jersey should always be conservative and nuanced. I think that we should have a Leinster Blue colour - CMYK or PMS, whatever system – and that should be the basic colour for all our home jerseys [and actually anything to do with Leinster].Same basic colour, year after year. And the jerseys should be pretty similar year-in, year-out ... like the Dallas Cowboys, for example [link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys#Uniforms ].

Our away jersey should be where things change more radically. I always liked this Cardiff one from 6-7 years ago [link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys#Uniforms ] and the Toulouse away and French national team away jerseys are always sharp.

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hugonaut wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 12:40 pm
Dave Cahill wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 8:42 am
Bad, an inverted triangle shape (broad shoulders, narrow hips) is perceived by our brains to be physically powerful. Its why you'll often see a 'disruptive' element on shirts around the sides of the torso and under the arms, or on the shorts
The 2014-15 European jersey, on the other hand, was an irredeemable abortion of a yoke. Goggles: https://rugbyshirtwatch.com/2014/08/06/ ... ean-shirt/ . That sh*t should never have been passed. One of the ugliest jerseys I have ever seen.
It's not a great state of affairs when then graphic looks overweight.

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hugonaut wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 12:40 pm
Dave Cahill wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 8:42 am
Bad, an inverted triangle shape (broad shoulders, narrow hips) is perceived by our brains to be physically powerful. Its why you'll often see a 'disruptive' element on shirts around the sides of the torso and under the arms, or on the shorts
2015-16 jersey was a good example. Big splash of white on the shoulders and then inverted chevrons in a darker colour at the base [link: https://rugbyshirtwatch.com/2015/08/19/ ... te-shirts/ ].

From my perspective, I thought it was a good jersey [not a great jersey]. Leave the white collar, take the white patches off the shoulder and that would have been a classic Leinster jersey. The 2014-15 European jersey, on the other hand, was an irredeemable abortion of a yoke. Goggles: https://rugbyshirtwatch.com/2014/08/06/ ... ean-shirt/ . That sh*t should never have been passed. One of the ugliest jerseys I have ever seen.

Of course, that is a totally subjective viewpoint. I understand that the manufacturer needs to make the jersey different enough each season that people want to, or feel obliged to, buy it.

From my point of view, the blue home jersey should always be conservative and nuanced. I think that we should have a Leinster Blue colour - CMYK or PMS, whatever system – and that should be the basic colour for all our home jerseys [and actually anything to do with Leinster].Same basic colour, year after year. And the jerseys should be pretty similar year-in, year-out ... like the Dallas Cowboys, for example [link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys#Uniforms ].

Our away jersey should be where things change more radically. I always liked this Cardiff one from 6-7 years ago [link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dallas_Cowboys#Uniforms ] and the Toulouse away and French national team away jerseys are always sharp.
My favourite example of a piece of kit design for psychological reasons is the shorts on the 2009 Grand slam kit. Two simple green curves either side create an impression of narrow hips and break up the body shape when combined with the jersey and the green pitch. Very small, very subtle, very effective.

Also, anyone remember the font being used by CCC on jersey numbers at the time - really hard to read at a glance
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There is currently an hour long wait to get into the Liverpool online store to pre-order the new LFC home jersey. Somehow, no matter how good it is, I don't see that being a problem for Leinster :lol:
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Dave Cahill wrote:
August 1st, 2020, 12:29 pm
Also, anyone remember the font being used by CCC on jersey numbers at the time - really hard to read at a glance

My favourite thing about the numbers on the 2009 6 Nations jerseys
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Dave Cahill wrote:
August 1st, 2020, 12:29 pm

My favourite example of a piece of kit design for psychological reasons is the shorts on the 2009 Grand slam kit. Two simple green curves either side create an impression of narrow hips and break up the body shape when combined with the jersey and the green pitch. Very small, very subtle, very effective.

Also, anyone remember the font being used by CCC on jersey numbers at the time - really hard to read at a glance
I hadn't noticed that until you pointed it out. Went back with an image search and it's really effective - there's a good example in the main photo here [link: https://extra.ie/2017/07/25/sport/rugby ... lam-winner ] where you can see the green strip on Hayes's left hip working really well in that regard. It sort of frames the silhouette and makes sure that the white shorts don't like a massive nappy.

Getting those sort of technical ideas incorporated into the Leinster kit design is the route I would prefer that adidas took. Make the wearer look athletic. If possible, give an on-field advantage – whether that's collar design, seam placement, grip printing, whatever – on the pro jersey. On that point, Canterbury provided a short, interesting article on the difference between the test jersey and replica jersey they made for England back in 2014 here: https://www.canterbury.com/blog/sports/ ... st-vs-pro/

I have zero interest in conceptual nonsense about the spears that the Celts used to use or the strings on a harp. That is just pure hokum. We already have a heritage, and it's this: https://twitter.com/leinsterrugby/statu ... 07/photo/1

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