Liberty Mutual in talks over RDS naming rights

[sid]

There are other schools which I’m also familiar with, that are very expensive to attend and even if you have finance, you may not get into. Because they are small and expensive they do not represent a healthy cross section of Irish society and they have an elitist ethos. Elite is the correct word here because whether that is intend or not this type of culture prevails.

Can you name a few? I'm genuinely curious to know. If you asked me to name an "elite" school prior to reading your post, Blackrock probably would have been the first I'd have thought of such is my level of ignorance on these matters.

[TerenureJim]

So how about those stadium naming rights then? I read a piece in the IT which suggested it may be parked until the end of the season. Think it's a great idea though money for nothing and we'll still call it the RDS because it's just a stadium in the RDS and I don't see the RDS ever changing their name.

[BlueBlue]

Perhaps that just means that Blackrock is a well known school. And no I'm not naming anything or anyone.

[Sauvignon Blank]

Mary's is not an elite school, I wouldn't put Blackrock in that bracket either,

Blackrock is an Elite school.

The sad thing about some people in Ireland is, If you speak in any way well, live in an area that is nice / clean you are a west brit. That’s just sad. For me this means the only definition of being Irish is someone who lives is a shabby dirty house and speaks with a heavy accent.

BlueBlue I think your confusing the real meaning of 'West Brits'. Bit of an over generalisation in the above.

Yes I'm generalising about a generalisation !

Out of interest, please give me the true definition of West Brit ? Perhaps you are right but I'm taking the generalisation to its maximum conclusion.

It's a perjorative term (at present) for a South Sider(Dublin) who has aspirations and delusions of being somewhat British. Although they won't readily admit it, they look fondly and lovingly(consciously and subconsciously) across the water at their former colonial masters. They tend to scoff at Irish Culture, (language, and Irish Nationalism in particular) and believe British (mis)rule was by and large the making of this country. They accentuate the positive aspects of British (mis)rule but conveniently forget the atrocities. The Sunday Independent is their bible and lap up the musings and revisionism of Eoghan Harris,Ruth Dudley whatever and Eilis O'hanlon for example.
Another curious and frankly hilarious aspect of this phenomenom in recent decades is the increase in double barrel names. i.e Sweeney -Burke, Roche-Byrne for example. Pretentious and comical in equal measure.


Originally dates back to the land struggle when O'Connell and DP Moran coined the phrase.

[RobbieRockBoy]

There are other schools which I’m also familiar with, that are very expensive to attend and even if you have finance, you may not get into. Because they are small and expensive they do not represent a healthy cross section of Irish society and they have an elitist ethos. Elite is the correct word here because whether that is intend or not this type of culture prevails.

Can you name a few? I'm genuinely curious to know. If you asked me to name an "elite" school prior to reading your post, Blackrock probably would have been the first I'd have thought of such is my level of ignorance on these matters.

It shows:

A list of all fee paying schools in the Republic, you may notice Blackrock has the highest enrolement of all bar 1, Belvedre (by 2).



County Roll Number Official School Name Address 1 Address 2 Address 3 Address 4 Phone Principal Name Ethos/Religion Total Enrolment
Cavan 61080S Royal School Cavan College Street Cavan Co. Cavan 0494361605 MR. EDWARD LINDSAY CHURCH OF IRELAND 240
Cork 62060R Bandon Grammar School Bandon Co Cork 0238841713 MR. THOMAS SUTTON CHURCH OF IRELAND 565
Cork 62370J Midleton College Midleton Co Cork 0214631146 MR. SIMON THOMPSON CHURCH OF IRELAND 342
Cork 62520C Christian Brothers College Sidney Hill Wellington Road Cork. 0214501653 DR. LAURENCE A JORDAN CATHOLIC 797
Cork 62570R Presentation Brothers College The Mardyke Cork 0214272743 MR. KENNETH WHYTE CATHOLIC 662
Cork 62690E Scoil Mhuire 2 Sidney Place Wellington Road Cork 0214501844 MS. REGINA MORAN CATHOLIC 426
Dublin 60030V Blackrock College Blackrock Co Dublin 012888681 MR. ALAN T MAC GINTY CATHOLIC 1,001
Dublin 60040B Willow Park School Rock Road Blackrock Co Dublin 012881651 Donal Brennan CATHOLIC 201
Dublin 60090Q Rathdown School Glenageary Co Dublin 012853133 MISS ANNE DOWLING CHURCH OF IRELAND 322
Dublin 60100Q Castleknock College Castleknock Dublin 15 018213051 MR. OLIVER MURPHY CATHOLIC 563
Dublin 60120W Mount Sackville Secondary School Chapelizod Dublin 20 018213317 MRS. EILEEN HIGGINS CATHOLIC 611
Dublin 60130C Loreto Abbey Secondary School Dalkey Co Dublin 012718900 MR. ROBERT DUNNE CATHOLIC 605
Dublin 60140F Mount Anville Secondary School Mount Anville Rd Dublin 14 012885313 MRS. PATRICIA MATHEWS CATHOLIC 637
Dublin 60160L Notre Dame Secondary School Upper Churchtown Road Dublin 14 012989533 MRS. MARY M BRANNIGAN CATHOLIC 196
Dublin 60180R Christian Brothers College Monkstown Park Dun Laoghaire Co Dublin 012805854 DR. GERARD BERRY CATHOLIC 531
Dublin 60240J Loreto College Foxrock Foxrock Dublin 18 012895637 MS. NUALA MANNION CATHOLIC 656
Dublin 60250M Holy Child Secondary School Military Road Killiney Co. Dublin 012823120 MRS. GERARDINE HACKETT CATHOLIC 325
Dublin 60260P St Joseph Of Cluny Secondary School Bellevue Park Ballinclea Rd Killiney Co Dublin 012855027 MISS MARY G WHITE CATHOLIC 438
Dublin 60272W The Kings Hospital Palmerstown Dublin 20 016436500 MR. MICHAEL DAVID HALL CHURCH OF IRELAND 686
Dublin 60320H St Columba's College Whitechurch Dublin 16 014906791 DR. LINDSAY HASLETT CHURCH OF IRELAND 284
Dublin 60321J Rockbrook Park School Edmondstown Road Rathfarnham Dublin 16 014933204 MR. MARK HAMILTON CATHOLIC 152
Dublin 60340N Loreto High School Beaufort Grange Rd Rathfarnham Dublin 14 014933251 MS. MARGARET O DONOGHUE CATHOLIC 614
Dublin 60381E Sutton Park School St Fintans Road Sutton Dublin 13 018322940 MR. MICHAEL MORETTA CHURCH OF IRELAND 251
Dublin 60520P Belvedere College S.J 6 Great Denmark Street Dublin 1 018586600 MR. GERRY FOLEY CATHOLIC 1,003
Dublin 60530S Gonzaga College Sandford Road Ranelagh Dublin 6 014972931 MR. KEVIN WHIRDY CATHOLIC 541
Dublin 60540V Catholic University School 89 Lower Leeson Street Dublin 2 016762586 FR. MARTIN DALY CATHOLIC 444
Dublin 60560E St Marys College Rathmines Dublin 6 014995700 MR. CLIVE BYRNE CATHOLIC 434
Dublin 60561G St Michaels College Ailesbury Road Dublin 4 012189400 MR. T M KELLEHER CATHOLIC 609
Dublin 60570H Terenure College Templeogue Road Terenure Dublin 6w 014904621 FR. EANNA RISTEARD O HOBAIN CATHOLIC 697
Dublin 60590N St Conleths College 28 Clyde Road Ballsbridge Dublin 4 016680022 MR. PETER GALLAGHER CATHOLIC 267
Dublin 60630W St Kilian's Deutsche Schule Roebuck Road Clonskeagh Dublin 14 012883323 MISS ALICE LYNCH INTER DENOMINATIONAL 360
Dublin 60640C Sandford Park School Ltd Sandford Road Ranelagh Dublin 6 014971417 MISS EDITH ANN MARIE BYRNE CHURCH OF IRELAND 216
Dublin 60650F St Andrews College Booterstown Ave Blackrock Co Dublin 012882785 MR. ARTHUR GODSIL CHURCH OF IRELAND 988
Dublin 60660I St Patricks Cathedral G.S St Patricks Close Dublin 8 014543388 MRS. SYLVIA HICK CHURCH OF IRELAND 132
Dublin 60670L The High School Zion Road Rathgar Dublin 6 014922611 MR. ANDREW FORREST CHURCH OF IRELAND 792
Dublin 60820E Loreto College 53 St Stephens Green Dublin 2 016618179 MISS TRIONA BARRETT CATHOLIC 562
Dublin 60892G The Teresian School 12 Stillorgan Road Donnybrook Dublin 4 012691376 MISS NATUCA CORDON CATHOLIC 227
Dublin 60910F Alexandra College Milltown Dublin 6 014977571 MRS. BARBARA ENNIS CHURCH OF IRELAND 526
Dublin 60930L Rosemont School Temple Road Blackrock Co Dublin 012833855 MISS MAIRE FARRELL CATHOLIC 68
Dublin 61010U Wesley College Ballinteer Dublin 16 012987066 MR. CHRISTOPHER WOODS METHODIST 873
Dublin 61020A Stratford College 1 Zion Road Rathgar Dublin 6 014922315 MS. P. GORDON JEWISH 100
Dublin 68071G John Scottus Secondary School 72/76 Morehampton Rd Donnybrook Dublin 4 016680828 DR. MICHAEL TELFORD INTER DENOMINATIONAL 123
Kildare 61680T Newbridge College Newbridge Co. Kildare 045487200 MR. MATTHEW O'SHEA CATHOLIC 826
Kildare 61720F Clongowes Wood College Naas Co Kildare 045868202 REV. LEONARD MOLONEY CATHOLIC 458
Kilkenny 61570M Kilkenny College Castlecomer Road Kilkenny 0567761544 MR. IAN COOMBES CHURCH OF IRELAND 772
Limerick 64150F Glenstal Abbey School Murroe Co Limerick 061386099 REV. MARK HEDERMAN CATHOLIC 182
Limerick 64310B Villiers Secondary School North Circular Road Limerick 061451447 MS. JILL STOREY CHURCH OF IRELAND 560
Louth 63870L Drogheda Grammar School Mornington Rd Drogheda Co Louth 0419838281 MR. RICHARD W SCHMIDT QUAKER 237
Louth 63920A Dundalk Grammar School The Crescent Dundalk Co Louth 0429334459 MR. CYRIL DRURY CHURCH OF IRELAND 507
Meath 64420I Franciscan College Gormanstown Co Meath 018412203 MR. DERMOT LAVIN CATHOLIC 311
Monaghan 64830E Monaghan Collegiate School Corlatt Monaghan Co Monaghan 04782060 MR. JOHNSTON TREVOR REID CHURCH OF IRELAND 242
Sligo 65190W Sligo Grammar School The Mall Sligo 0719145010 MR. WYNN OLIVER CHURCH OF IRELAND 446
Tipperary 65410K Cistercian College Roscrea Co. Tipperary 050531203 MRS. MARCELLINE CODY CATHOLIC 203
Waterford 65010R Newtown School Waterford Co. Waterford 051860200 MR. DAVID KEITH LEMON QUAKER 303
Wicklow 61811I St Gerard's School Thornhill Road Bray 012821822 MR. THOMAS GERAGHTY CATHOLIC 487

[blockhead]

So how about those stadium naming rights then? I read a piece in the IT which suggested it may be parked until the end of the season. Think it's a great idea though money for nothing and we'll still call it the RDS because it's just a stadium in the RDS and I don't see the RDS ever changing their name.

#

We are tenants, so any money is between the society and the liberty right? We get extra bums on seats but only for 2 HEC games each year. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[sid]

It shows:

A list of all fee paying schools in the Republic, you may notice Blackrock has the highest enrolement of all bar 1, Belvedre (by 2).

That's all well and good, but smaller doesn't necessarily imply more elite.

Point taken though.

[tones]

So how about those stadium naming rights then? I read a piece in the IT which suggested it may be parked until the end of the season. Think it's a great idea though money for nothing and we'll still call it the RDS because it's just a stadium in the RDS and I don't see the RDS ever changing their name.

#

We are tenants, so any money is between the society and the liberty right? We get extra bums on seats but only for 2 HEC games each year. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes we are tenants, and Liberty looking at the namings rights (through negotiations with us) is a direct result of playing 13/14 games there annually (roughly) which are televised. I am sure Mick Dawson will be reminding thhe RDS Mgmt committee of this.

[AdamK]

Potentially with a new improved stand it may infact attract new customers - also, if marketed right (i.e ticket prices reflecting) you may see more bums on the seats for league games.

[TerenureJim]

Potentially with a new improved stand it may infact attract new customers - also, if marketed right (i.e ticket prices reflecting) you may see more bums on the seats for league games.

It should also mean more money going into the facilites at the RDS which can only be of benefit to Leinster, I mean I like the current set up and there's a great match day atmosphere but if they have money to put in more/better jacks, changing rooms, screens, bars etc. etc. it can't hurt us and can't hurt the match day crowd.

Improved facilities do usually lead to increased attendance, look at the Premiership in England and the way stadiums were in the early 90's compared to now.

[cormac]

Potentially with a new improved stand it may infact attract new customers - also, if marketed right (i.e ticket prices reflecting) you may see more bums on the seats for league games.

It should also mean more money going into the facilites at the RDS which can only be of benefit to Leinster, I mean I like the current set up and there's a great match day atmosphere but if they have money to put in more/better jacks, changing rooms, screens, bars etc. etc. it can't hurt us and can't hurt the match day crowd.

Improved facilities do usually lead to increased attendance, look at the Premiership in England and the way stadiums were in the early 90's compared to now.

Should also see an improvemet in the quality and quantity of corporate facilities. Also a chance to sell far more season tickets, many of them in a better location than previously offered.

[tate]

Oh money for nothing! And 15million of them. Yes please.

[sid]

Oh money for nothing!

Almost, but not quite.

[tate]

Oh money for nothing!

Almost, but not quite.

You've lost me.

[sid]

We're losing the name.

[tate]

We're losing the name.

A rose by any other name would smell so sweet. Even if they called them stench blossoms. Or crapweeds.

[blockhead]

Oh money for nothing! And 15million of them. Yes please.

But none of that 15M is ours right? The RDS gets it all.
And when do they plan building this new stand, after the last game of the season and completed before the horseshow?
BTW does Leinster Rugby recieve any revenue from the bars and vendors on matchday at the RDS?

[tate]

Oh money for nothing! And 15million of them. Yes please.

But none of that 15M is ours right? The RDS gets it all.
And when do they plan building this new stand, after the last game of the season and completed before the horseshow?
BTW does Leinster Rugby recieve any revenue from the bars and vendors on matchday at the RDS?

Not into our coffers directly, but will go into improving stadium facilities, perfect synergy and upward integration.

No idea about bar receipts.

[thepunter]

We're losing the name.

A rose by any other name would smell so sweet. Even if they called them stench blossoms. Or crapweeds.

not if they were called scumdrops.

[thepunter]

I have to say that renaming landsdowne into the aviva made me sick. Im massively against the corporatisation of the world that is gathering pace daily, Citizens utd in the US, Aviva stadium, and now what, Liberty Mutual park? Lets forget about the fact that the auditors/valuers screwed the Irish people and helped us give away a viable business to a crowd of american vultures, lets just hone in ln the fact that they think we'll identify with their brand because they never shut up about Boston. How patronising -'that'll keep the Micks happy'. Ugh, thinking of those ads, makes me want to vomit. The ads on rte irritate me in a massive way.... 'that's liberty insurance'...I lived over there for years and now home even sounds like the sheer fakeness (for want of a better word) of american business.

I am strongly opposed to having anything to do with the chunts.