Can Leinster afford not to sack MOC

[All Blacks nil]

Can you imagine the grief if Leinster actually start losing matches?

Aviva pre Christmas European tickets sold in the last 4 years.

11-12 46,365
12-13 48,964
13-14 47,370
14-15 38,500 (an uncanny round number)

9,000-10,000 have deserted the cause already. They couldn't stand winning ugly. i'd hate to see how many desert Leinster if they start losing ugly.

Outside of the obvious rugby reasons, there are 10,000 x E20 reasons MOC should go.
Just as the FAI couldn't afford to keep Trappatoni, Leinster can't afford to keep MOC.

[johng]

Perfect. Another of these threads. How many is enough?

At least this one is by a Munster fan on the Wum.

[ratpack]

Mods can we get this thread closed, it's just rehashing the same old arguments that are to be found on numerous other MOC Out style threads.

[Logorrhea]

Mods can we get this thread closed, it's just rehashing the same old arguments that are to be found on numerous other MOC Out style threads.

Agree with above, but to answer the OP ................of course we can afford it, we're loaded.

[All Blacks nil]

Mods can we get this thread closed, it's just rehashing the same old arguments that are to be found on numerous other MOC Out style threads.

I agree that there are plenty of threads relating to people's desire to see MOC gone.

However whereas those threads concentrate on his perceived ineptitude as a coach and the perceived style of play he is striving to implement, this thread concentrates SOLELY on the potentially negative financial effect of retaining MOC.

For that reason, I feel the mods should allow the discussion develop and allow the thread to continue.

Other club's finances have filled page upon page with no attempted censorship (why should there be) and I see no reasonable reason not to discuss this matter.

[Logorrhea]

However whereas those threads concentrate on his perceived ineptitude as a coach and the perceived style of play he is striving to implement, this thread concentrates SOLELY on the potentially negative financial effect of retaining MOC.

Stating a link does not prove the link. The thread is dependent on one MASSIVE assumption.

Can you prove, or offer any evidence at all, that MOC is to blame for the ticket sales you've listed? Have you considered any other factors that could have impacted on ticket sales for one annual fixture? By the same Logic I presume you believe that Axel should be fired from his position in Munsterland?

If you are going to WUM, at least make an effort to do it well.

[olaf the fat]

Enough of this shite.

Current league champions now sitting in 5th place with plenty of time and opportunity to make the play offs, again. Still in the hunt in Europe, European Qfs last season - and you suggest sacking the coach?????

Game plan is not right, where have the off loads and turn overs gone? Can MOC afford not to sack the conservative game plan? fair enough

[footrush]

Enough of this shite.

Current league champions now sitting in 5th place with plenty of time and opportunity to make the play offs, again. Still in the hunt in Europe, European Qfs last season - and you suggest sacking the coach?????

Game plan is not right, where have the off loads and turn overs gone? Can MOC afford not to sack the conservative game plan? fair enough

[All Blacks nil]

Enough of this shite.

Current league champions now sitting in 5th place with plenty of time and opportunity to make the play offs, again. Still in the hunt in Europe, European Qfs last season - and you suggest sacking the coach?????

Game plan is not right, where have the off loads and turn overs gone? Can MOC afford not to sack the conservative game plan? fair enough

That's fair comment.

Although the 10,000 who weren't there on Saturday night have already made their judgement. )

As you say, in a prime position to qualify for the European knockout stages, close enough in the league (better position than last year if memory serves me right) to not only make the playoffs but also like last year, to top the standings, yet 10,000 of the 12 county army have fallen by the wayside.

Ulster are out of Europe and both Munster and Leinster are in danger of their last home pool matches being dead rubbers for possibly the first time this century.
Leinster v Castres and Munster v Sale, with nothing at stake.
Shudder the thought!!!!

[All Blacks nil]

However whereas those threads concentrate on his perceived ineptitude as a coach and the perceived style of play he is striving to implement, this thread concentrates SOLELY on the potentially negative financial effect of retaining MOC.

Stating a link does not prove the link. The thread is dependent on one MASSIVE assumption.

Can you prove, or offer any evidence at all, that MOC is to blame for the ticket sales you've listed? Have you considered any other factors that could have impacted on ticket sales for one annual fixture? By the same Logic I presume you believe that Axel should be fired from his position in Munsterland?

If you are going to WUM, at least make an effort to do it well.

X-Factor final

[Logorrhea]

X-Factor final

Meh ....... your not worth the bother.

[Edna Kenny]

I'd imagine that many tickets were not taken up by families that would otherwise have gone had it been a 5 or 6pm kick off. Lots of people who might go along to the odd match would have had other commitments. I was offered 3 tickets on the day because people couldn't go for various reasons, none of which were Leisnter's style of rugby or their coach.

[Avenger]

I'd imagine that many tickets were not taken up by families that would otherwise have gone had it been a 5 or 6pm kick off.

Bingo! Kick off time has a massive influence when you're bringing kids.

[berniemac67]

However whereas those threads concentrate on his perceived ineptitude as a coach and the perceived style of play he is striving to implement, this thread concentrates SOLELY on the potentially negative financial effect of retaining MOC.

Stating a link does not prove the link. The thread is dependent on one MASSIVE assumption.

Can you prove, or offer any evidence at all, that MOC is to blame for the ticket sales you've listed? Have you considered any other factors that could have impacted on ticket sales for one annual fixture? By the same Logic I presume you believe that Axel should be fired from his position in Munsterland?

If you are going to WUM, at least make an effort to do it well.

a rush of pre-christmas first communions, innit?

[paddyor]

Yep