Munster - Who's Boss and who's Toss

[Peg Leg]

He didn't pick himself, all he did was play to the best of his ability for his clubs - you can argue what level that ability topped out at, but you can't argue that he tried his best to reach that level every time he played.

He should give all his caps to MO'K! Even the ones they were both in the match day squad? Especially those ones

Oh and Horan and Sheahan should be boiled in elephant shite

Made my day, this...

[Stuka]

Boss:

James Downey - Sound as a pound and an honest Pro
POC - An Ireland great that transcends Provincial rivalry
Wallace - An Ireland great that transcends Provincial rivalry


Toss:

Marcus Horan - Thuggish behavior on the pitch
Zebo - Showpony with no class
Leamy - Thughish behaviour on the pitch

[Oldschool]

Boss - Stringer - His influence on the improvement in performances of Munster and Irish rugby has been totally underestimated.

Toss - Foley - His influence on the improvement...etc has been totally overestimated.

[simonokeeffe]

Boss - Stringer - His influence on the improvement in performances of Munster and Irish rugby has been totally underestimated.

Toss - Foley - His influence on the improvement...etc has been totally overestimated.

Hes a very good forwards coach but not anything else

[Oldschool]

Boss - Stringer - His influence on the improvement in performances of Munster and Irish rugby has been totally underestimated.

Toss - Foley - His influence on the improvement...etc has been totally overestimated.

Hes a very good forwards coach but not anything else

Have to disagree, Stringer was a lot more than a good forwards coach.

[simonokeeffe]

Boss - Stringer - His influence on the improvement in performances of Munster and Irish rugby has been totally underestimated.

Toss - Foley - His influence on the improvement...etc has been totally overestimated.

Hes a very good forwards coach but not anything else

Have to disagree, Stringer was a lot more than a good forwards coach.

we'll agree to disagree

[Oldschoolsocks]

Is there a retaliatory thread on MF yet?

am guessing the Toss players are Sexton, Heaslip, and Leo
with a bregrudging Boss of BOD, Reddan, O'Meara, Cronin, Hogan, Nagle, Fogarty, Wallace and Ross

They fuvkin hate BOD

[neiliog93]

They hate D'Arcy and Horgan because they dislike their punditry.

[Degz]

Boss: Tony Ward

Toss: Tremenjus.

[simonokeeffe]

They hate D'Arcy and Horgan because they dislike their punditry.

Cork Con mafia had them spoiled for years

[munster#1]

They hate D'Arcy and Horgan because they dislike their punditry.

D'Arcy isn't actually that bad, but he was a bit childish taking offence tto the ribbing he got about the former Leinster center partnership.

Horgan is brutal, he has yet to move on from being a player, and has a massive inability to say anything negative about a Leinster player, and gets over the top defensive if anyone else says anything negative.

Saying that, only a child would judge either of those greats based on their ability to be a commentator or pundit.

Much like the people listing Frankie based on his motm selections.

[simonokeeffe]

They hate D'Arcy and Horgan because they dislike their punditry.

D'Arcy isn't actually that bad, but he was a bit childish taking offence tto the ribbing he got about the former Leinster center partnership.

Horgan is brutal, he has yet to move on from being a player, and has a massive inability to say anything negative about a Leinster player, and gets over the top defensive if anyone else says anything negative.

Saying that, only a child would judge either of those greats based on their ability to be a commentator or pundit.

Much like the people listing Frankie based on his motm selections.

Darcy ignored lots of jokes Robson made in general so its BS to say he got offeneded
Horgan is good and youve mixed him up with Keith Wood there
Difference with Frankie is hes crooked

[Dexter]

They hate D'Arcy and Horgan because they dislike their punditry.

D'Arcy isn't actually that bad, but he was a bit childish taking offence tto the ribbing he got about the former Leinster center partnership.

Horgan is brutal, he has yet to move on from being a player, and has a massive inability to say anything negative about a Leinster player, and gets over the top defensive if anyone else says anything negative.

Saying that, only a child would judge either of those greats based on their ability to be a commentator or pundit.

Much like the people listing Frankie based on his motm selections.

Other way around - Horgan is overly negative on Leinster, on Sky anyway, bit of compensation bias maybe.

[neiliog93]

I can see why you'd think D'Arcy is biased, don't think Horgan is at all. Predicted Ulster would win the Pro12 semi-final in 2014, for example (which Leinster won). Alan Quinlan is also pretty objective, it has to be said.

The difference with Frankie is that he has a professional conflict of interest and exploits it.

[blockhead]

I thought Varley was excellent on TG4 for the Conn v Edin game a few weeks back. Got more analysis out of him than a whole season of Marcus Horan.
Re. Ex-Leinster players as pundits. Them down there don't like them regardless of what they say unless they're blowing smoke up their arse's.
Woody-Ok but getting tired of him now and his overuse of the word "Unbelievable"
Lenihan-Could listen to him all day
Quinny- not too bad
Sheenan- adds very little value IMHO
Hook- total w*nker
Wallace-Belgrano
O'Gara-has a great career in punditry ahead of him if the coaching doesn't work out
Shaggy- Very good, but can get very technical, maybe a bit too much for your average 6N TV viewer
Darcy-too early to say
BOD-Don't get to watch too many games on BT

BOSS: POC, ROG, Stringer

TOSS: Galwey, Horan, Leamy (Altough he did have a potentially great career ruined by injury)

[neiliog93]

Don't think Leamy's career was potentially great. He was over 30 when he had to retire. High quality player but not potentially great.

[blockhead]

Yeah he retired in his 30s. But in his mid 20s he was very similar to SOB. Then he had a few serious injuries and he came back a shadow of himself. He had a big reputation but wasn't able to live up to it in what should have been his peak. That's my memory of him anyhow.

[offshorerules]

Warrick was Toss but they loved him down there.

[blockhead]

Warrick was Toss but they loved him down there.

Warrick was the perfect NIQ player. Could play anywhere in the backline. They should have hung onto him for a bit longer.

[simonokeeffe]

Warrick was Toss but they loved him down there.

Warrick was the perfect NIQ player. Could play anywhere in the backline. They should have hung onto him for a bit longer.

they tried to but wasnt it Cheika that lured him away with silly money?