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Re: Draw for H Cup / Champions Cup 2019

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2pm start time for the draws on the 20th, doing the Challenge Cup first.
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neill_m wrote:2pm start time for the draws on the 20th, doing the Challenge Cup first.
Assume that 2pm is local time in Switzerland so we'll have our usual lunchtime appointment at the desk to figure out the permutations?
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Xanthippe wrote:
neill_m wrote:2pm start time for the draws on the 20th, doing the Challenge Cup first.
Assume that 2pm is local time in Switzerland so we'll have our usual lunchtime appointment at the desk to figure out the permutations?
Sorry, 2pm Irish Time.
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neill_m wrote:
Xanthippe wrote:
neill_m wrote:2pm start time for the draws on the 20th, doing the Challenge Cup first.
Assume that 2pm is local time in Switzerland so we'll have our usual lunchtime appointment at the desk to figure out the permutations?
Sorry, 2pm Irish Time.
Aw cr@p that's not a great time - so much easier to watch during lunch than during work hours.
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We might have lost one to many quality players to win this pot. Any injuries might just be the tipping point.
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So the Heineken draw is tomorrow from 2pm (Irish Time), below is list of possible groups in terms of teams from Pots 1-3 and in brackets the scenario from the mini draw to decide which league's 2nd and 4th placed sides are placed in Pot 2:

Leinster, Wasps, Toulouse (Pro 14, Prem, T14)
Leinster, Racing 92, Tigers (Pro 14, Prem, T14)
Leinster, Racing 92, Newcastle (Pro 14, T14)
Leinster, Wasps, Lyon (Pro 14, Prem)
Leinster, Newcastle, Lyon (Prem, T14)
Leinster, Exeter, Lyon (Prem)
Leinster, Exeter, Toulouse (Prem)
Leinster, Newcastle, Toulouse (Prem)
Leinster, Montpellier, Newcastle (T14)
Leinster, Montpellier, Tigers (T14)
Leinster, Lyon, Tigers (T14)

Equal chance of drawing Gloucester/Cardiff/Bath/Toulon from Pot 4
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No easy Groups. Some a little easier than others. But none are made any easier by drawing Toulon from Pot 4. Definitely the team to avoid from that Pot.
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Sad day not having the possibility of Clermont, a team in so many ways you hate to get but also as a Leinster fan love to get.
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neill_m wrote:So the Heineken draw is tomorrow from 2pm (Irish Time), below is list of possible groups in terms of teams from Pots 1-3 and in brackets the scenario from the mini draw to decide which league's 2nd and 4th placed sides are placed in Pot 2:

Leinster, Wasps, Toulouse (Pro 14, Prem, T14)
Leinster, Racing 92, Tigers (Pro 14, Prem, T14)
Leinster, Racing 92, Newcastle (Pro 14, T14)
Leinster, Wasps, Lyon (Pro 14, Prem)
Leinster, Newcastle, Lyon (Prem, T14)
Leinster, Exeter, Lyon (Prem)
Leinster, Exeter, Toulouse (Prem)
Leinster, Newcastle, Toulouse (Prem)
Leinster, Montpellier, Newcastle (T14)
Leinster, Montpellier, Tigers (T14)
Leinster, Lyon, Tigers (T14)

Equal chance of drawing Gloucester/Cardiff/Bath/Toulon from Pot 4
I’ll take Bath from pool 4 please ?.
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One thing for sure a lot of teams are going to be unhappy they draw Leinster.
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footrush wrote:
neill_m wrote:So the Heineken draw is tomorrow from 2pm (Irish Time), below is list of possible groups in terms of teams from Pots 1-3 and in brackets the scenario from the mini draw to decide which league's 2nd and 4th placed sides are placed in Pot 2:

Leinster, Wasps, Toulouse (Pro 14, Prem, T14)
Leinster, Racing 92, Tigers (Pro 14, Prem, T14)
Leinster, Racing 92, Newcastle (Pro 14, T14)
Leinster, Wasps, Lyon (Pro 14, Prem)
Leinster, Newcastle, Lyon (Prem, T14)
Leinster, Exeter, Lyon (Prem)
Leinster, Exeter, Toulouse (Prem)
Leinster, Newcastle, Toulouse (Prem)
Leinster, Montpellier, Newcastle (T14)
Leinster, Montpellier, Tigers (T14)
Leinster, Lyon, Tigers (T14)

Equal chance of drawing Gloucester/Cardiff/Bath/Toulon from Pot 4
I’ll take Bath from pool 4 please ?.
Lovely place to visit for a rugby weekend. Toulon is the one to avoid in Pot 4.
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Andrew097 wrote:One thing for sure a lot of teams are going to be unhappy they draw Leinster.
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The key is to avoid Toloun as the 4th seed. Hopefully Munster draw them.

Exeter and Racing getting drawn into the 1st seed pot would be good as well as it means that we avoid both in our pool.

If Munster drew Exeter, Racing, Toloun I would be so happy I wouldn’t care what we drew.
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How do we follow the draw? Twitter, FB?
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domhnallj wrote:How do we follow the draw? Twitter, FB?
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Newcastle, Lyon and Glos from Pool 4 would be a fantastic draw. Two new spots to visit and an old fave too.

(Albeit, I do wonder if a so called handier draw actually benefits you over the long term, since it may mean a lack of battle hardness if you get through?

Lein, Wasps, Toulouse, Bath would be a cracker of a group also. Some old foes there!
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You think that's our only chance to visit Newcastle?
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bluemagic wrote:The key is to avoid Toloun as the 4th seed. Hopefully Munster draw them.

Exeter and Racing getting drawn into the 1st seed pot would be good as well as it means that we avoid both in our pool.

If Munster drew Exeter, Racing, Toloun I would be so happy I wouldn’t care what we drew.
If we are to meet Toulon in the HEC next year I want to meet them in the group where I think we can beat the over 2 legs.
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wixfjord wrote:Newcastle, Lyon and Glos from Pool 4 would be a fantastic draw. Two new spots to visit and an old fave too.

(Albeit, I do wonder if a so called handier draw actually benefits you over the long term, since it may mean a lack of battle hardness if you get through?

Lein, Wasps, Toulouse, Bath would be a cracker of a group also. Some old foes there!
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