Leinster Squad 19-20

[Keith]

In depth article on Salanoa. He was happy in Leinster, well settled and they dont think he will play more rugby inMunster in the next 2 years. You wonder what the benefit of moving is...

https://www.the42.ie/hawaiian-prop-roma ... 1-Jun2020/

It will look all the more bizarre when Munster barely play him next season.

They already are lowering expectations on that front. They said they want him because Munster have props in their 30s and he will get his chance in about 2 years.

I guess it’s less controversial to move him now rather than let him break through in Leinster or risk him changing his mind.

There is more of a chance of him ending up in the MLR (Im sure clubs over there will be watching his every move) and lining out for the USA now then becoming a regular starter for Munster. That's not a dig at his ability, rather its Munsters inability to properly develope these players.

[ronk]

You wonder what the benefit of moving is...

Hmmmm yes. I wonder what it could possibly be......

They said they want him because Munster have props in their 30s and he will get his chance in about 2 years.

oh. Yeah. Well there is that.

Why move now though?

[johng]

I guess it’s less controversial to move him now rather than let him break through in Leinster or risk him changing his mind.

Ah you have all theanswers Ronk.

[ronk]

I guess it’s less controversial to move him now rather than let him break through in Leinster or risk him changing his mind.

Ah you have all theanswers Ronk.

I'd prefer to be wrong. This is not a good reason. When factors other than rugby dictate then worse moves overall happen.

[cormac]

None of the players tested positive for the virus so all free to resume training tomorrow

[mildlyinterested]

None of the players tested positive for the virus so all free to resume training tomorrow

"training"

[betty swallocks]

Any word on any injuries stopping anyone from recommencing training today?

[mildlyinterested]

Any word on any injuries stopping anyone from recommencing training today?

no updates from leinster.

[mildlyinterested]

Pictures out. No sign of Tomane. Lowe obviously still in NZ, as is JGP.

Full squad update tomorrow.

[neiliog93]

I think Salanoa has so much natural athletic ability and power that he will break through at Munster, regardless of their poor culture in giving young players game time. Also, as absurd as Marty Moore's claim that he moved to Wasps to work with Dai Young was, I do think working with Rowntree will help Salanoa's scrummaging.

[mildlyinterested]

Well they don't have many options..

Archer and Ryan are in their early 30's, when they finish up there will be Knox and Salanoa.

They haven't developed a homegrown TH of decent ability since Ryan/Archer and haven't invested in homegrown TH props what so ever in the past 5 years.

It's obvious from the recent article on the42 that his handlers wanted him at Munster, come what may. Ah well, by all accounts he is a good guy and I wish him well apart from when he plays Leinster.

[mildlyinterested]

So projected senior squad:

LH Prop(4)
Cian Healy(32)
Ed Byrne(26)
Peter Dooley(26)
Michael Milne(21)

TH Prop(4)
Michael Bent(34)
Tadhg Furlong(27)
Andrew Porter(24)
Vakh Abdaladze(24)

Hooker(4)
Sean Cronin(34)
James Tracy(29)
Ronan Kelleher(22)
Dan Sheehan(21)

Lock(6)
Scott Fardy(36)
Devin Toner(34)
Ross Molony(26)
James Ryan(24)
Jack Dunne(21)
Ryan Baird(21)

Backrow(9)
Rhys Ruddock(29)
Jack Conan(28)
Josh Van Der Flier(27)
Dan Leavy(26)
Josh Murphy(25)
Will Connors(24)
Max Deegan(23)
Caelan Doris(24)
Scott Penny(20)

Scrumhalf(4)
Jamie Gibson Park(28) - currently in NZ.
Luke McGrath(27)
Rowan Osborne(23)
Hugh O'Sullivan(22)

Outhalf(4)
Jonathan Sexton(35)
Ross Byrne(25)
Ciaran Frawley(22)
Harry Byrne(21)

Centre(7)
Robbie Henshaw(27)
Rory O'Loughlin(26)
Garry Ringrose(25)
Conor O'Brien(24)
Jimmy O'Brien(23)
Gavin Mullin(22)
Tommy O'Brien(22)

Back Three(9)
Rob Kearney(34)
Fergus McFadden(34)
Dave Kearney(31)
James Lowe(28) - currently in NZ.
Barry Daly(27)
Adam Byrne(26)
Cian Kelleher(26)
Hugo Keenan(24)
Jordan Larmour(23)

[ronk]

Is Joe Tomane confirmed gone then?

[mildlyinterested]

Is Joe Tomane confirmed gone then?

presumably confirmation will come tomorrow?

he was doing a home workout on his instagram story today when the team was in UCD, so 1 + 1 =2 ?

[LeinsterLeader]

So projected senior squad:

LH Prop(4)
Cian Healy(32)
Ed Byrne(26)
Peter Dooley(26)
Michael Milne(21)

TH Prop(4)
Michael Bent(34)
Tadhg Furlong(27)
Andrew Porter(24)
Vakh Abdaladze(24)

Hooker(4)
Sean Cronin(34)
James Tracy(29)
Ronan Kelleher(22)
Dan Sheehan(21)

Lock(6)
Scott Fardy(36)
Devin Toner(34)
Ross Molony(26)
James Ryan(24)
Jack Dunne(21)
Ryan Baird(21)

Backrow(9)
Rhys Ruddock(29)
Jack Conan(28)
Josh Van Der Flier(27)
Dan Leavy(26)
Josh Murphy(25)
Will Connors(24)
Max Deegan(23)
Caelan Doris(24)
Scott Penny(20)

Scrumhalf(4)
Jamie Gibson Park(28) - currently in NZ.
Luke McGrath(27)
Rowan Osborne(23)
Hugh O'Sullivan(22)

Outhalf(4)
Jonathan Sexton(35)
Ross Byrne(25)
Ciaran Frawley(22)
Harry Byrne(21)

Centre(7)
Robbie Henshaw(27)
Rory O'Loughlin(26)
Garry Ringrose(25)
Conor O'Brien(24)
Jimmy O'Brien(23)
Gavin Mullin(22)
Tommy O'Brien(22)

Back Three(9)
Rob Kearney(34)
Fergus McFadden(34)
Dave Kearney(31)
James Lowe(28) - currently in NZ.
Barry Daly(27)
Adam Byrne(26)
Cian Kelleher(26)
Hugo Keenan(24)
Jordan Larmour(23)

I think no matter what way you bend it, on paper, the Leinster senior squad for next season will again be weaker then the previous season. Obviously this may not turn out to be the case if the guys from the academy that come in to replace the guys leaving step up and live up to their potential but there's no doubt we will be losing a good wack of experience in Kearney, McFadden and Tomane which we won't be replacing.

[neiliog93]

Our squad is weaker this season and Munster's is stronger. It'll be much tighter this year, and will only grow more so if they continue to be enabled by the IRFU in raiding our squad (and buying in world class NIQs, of which we have none).

[Ruckedtobits]

Our squad is weaker this season and Munster's is stronger. It'll be much tighter this year, and will only grow more so if they continue to be enabled by the IRFU in raiding our squad (and buying in world class NIQs, of which we have none).

Would respectfully disagree. Improvements, by experience, at Hooker, 2nd Row, Back-row, Out-halves, Centre & Full-back. The Squad now has depth in tricky positions. Not perfect but not so experimental and..........at present...........no injuries.

[johng]

I'm telling Fardy and Lowe that people are saying they are not world class.

[johng]

I think no matter what way you bend it, on paper, the Leinster senior squad for next season will again be weaker then the previous season.

Will be weaker when the previous season?

[neiliog93]

I'm telling Fardy and Lowe that people are saying they are not world class.

I don't think they are. They're both very good, but world class for me means someone who would mount a credible challenge to be included in a World XV in their position. Neither of them do that.