Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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the spoofer wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:The Squad I consider Leo will pick for Sunday:

15. R Kearney; 14. J Larmour; 13. G Ringrose; 12. R Henshaw; 11. J Lowe; 10. R Byrne; 9. L McGrath
1. C Healy; 2. S Cronin; 3. T Furlong; 4. D Toner; 5. S Fardy; 6. R Ruddock; 7. JVdF; 8. C. Doris

Bench: J Treacy, P Dooley, A Porter, R Molony, M Deegan, JGP, C Frawley, C Kelleher

Lots of variations possible but that's the group I believe will be selected to get 5 points, with J10 and James Ryan unavailable - a week too soon.

The selection is based on the assumption that Lyon will come to stop us playing rather than with the belief they can win. Thus, the ability to resist their physicality and stick to the patterns we believe can produce 4 tries will be vital.

Our Pro14 game plan is based on running teams off their feet and out of position. Because of the bulk and strength of EPRC teams, that's a riskier option in European games. Larmour, Ringrose & Lowe provide adequate strike power and that pack can handle anything Lyon can produce.
Why drop DK when he has been our best winger this season?
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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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It wouldn't be my team either but RTB's logic was fairly clear. I can also see there being merit in rotating with someone like Rob. Just because Larmour seems to have taken his place doesn't mean that he should be cast aside.

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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fourthirtythree wrote:
the spoofer wrote:
Ruckedtobits wrote:The Squad I consider Leo will pick for Sunday:

15. R Kearney; 14. J Larmour; 13. G Ringrose; 12. R Henshaw; 11. J Lowe; 10. R Byrne; 9. L McGrath
1. C Healy; 2. S Cronin; 3. T Furlong; 4. D Toner; 5. S Fardy; 6. R Ruddock; 7. JVdF; 8. C. Doris

Bench: J Treacy, P Dooley, A Porter, R Molony, M Deegan, JGP, C Frawley, C Kelleher

Lots of variations possible but that's the group I believe will be selected to get 5 points, with J10 and James Ryan unavailable - a week too soon.

The selection is based on the assumption that Lyon will come to stop us playing rather than with the belief they can win. Thus, the ability to resist their physicality and stick to the patterns we believe can produce 4 tries will be vital.

Our Pro14 game plan is based on running teams off their feet and out of position. Because of the bulk and strength of EPRC teams, that's a riskier option in European games. Larmour, Ringrose & Lowe provide adequate strike power and that pack can handle anything Lyon can produce.
Why drop DK when he has been our best winger this season?
And why move Larmour out of position to do it?
Exactly. If they want to give Rob game time, do it during the 6Ns window. Chances are he’ll be available to us- and we’ll be glad to be able to select him in the absence of Larmour, who’ll probably be Ireland’s first choice 15.


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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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I imagine that Lyon will kick a lot of ball. With that in mind, I'd be happy to start Rob @ 15. Not exactly devastating if Larmour starts there though.

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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I'd pick Larmour at 15 this weekend and Rob over in Treviso. The auld home and away, horses for courses selection.

Treviso will be targeting our game quite intently I would think.

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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It will be interesting what team Lyon put out.

3 of their players were selected for the french squad - Demba Bamba (who played against us last time) and then Dylan Cretin (back row) and Killian Geraci (2nd row). They are all kids! All 3 played against Agen last weekend.

it will be a sign of intent to have their french squad members playing

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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glenageary wrote:It will be interesting what team Lyon put out.

3 of their players were selected for the french squad - Demba Bamba (who played against us last time) and then Dylan Cretin (back row) and Killian Geraci (2nd row). They are all kids! All 3 played against Agen last weekend.

it will be a sign of intent to have their french squad members playing
Lambey could come back for them. He was out with concussion since October - the French ironically take it very seriously in the league.
I think he's a cracking player. He's club captain. He'll be looking to make a mark if he does, as he's missed out on the French squad.

They've a load of injuries though, so I'm not sure what kind of strength team they will send.

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Team mostly as expected except Tracey and Deegan to start.

Lovin the Max Deegan decision. Doris has been brilliant, but it shows the squad that when a guy puts in a huge performance like he did last week then it won't be ignored.

Brilliant management! :clap:

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Lyon Team:

The LOU Rugby start XV: Kaabèche, Alkhazashvili, Gomez Kodela - Rolland, Roodt - Geraci, Oosthuizen, Bruni - Pélissié, Buttin - Nakaitaci, Regard (cap), Dumortier, Mignot - Arnold.
The replacements : Maurouard, Chaume, Yameogo, Halaifonua, Lambey, Hidalgo-Clyne, Moura, Tuisova.

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Really like that selection and how it suggests we will play.

I fully expect to see Doris and Cronin starting next weekend, and maybe Porter too. And Ryan if fit. JGP and Rob could also come into the mix. And Connors. Very strong squad.

As expected, a depleted Lyon side. If we click, this could be a big win.
Lambey will come off the bench to start his return to rugby.
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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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LeinsterLeader wrote:Team mostly as expected except Tracey and Deegan to start.

Lovin the Max Deegan decision. Doris has been brilliant, but it shows the squad that when a guy puts in a huge performance like he did last week then it won't be ignored.

Brilliant management! :clap:

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Here's our squad, for reference:

Leinster Rugby (caps in brackets)

15. Jordan Larmour (44)
14. Dave Kearney (144)
13. Garry Ringrose (70)
12. Robbie Henshaw (42)
11. James Lowe (39)
10. Ross Byrne (82)
9. Luke McGrath (119)
1. Cian Healy (214)
2. James Tracy (104)
3. Tadhg Furlong (106)
4. Devin Toner (242)
5. Scott Fardy (54) CAPTAIN
6. Rhys Ruddock (167)
7. Josh van der Flier (78)
8. Max Deegan (58)

16. Seán Cronin (176)
17. Peter Dooley (71)
18. Andrew Porter (60)
19. Ross Molony (91)
20. Caelan Doris (27)
21. Jamison Gibson-Park (83)
22. Ciarán Frawley (20)
23. Rob Kearney (215)

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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I really like that Deegan decision too. I would've gone for Doris but it just shows a willingness to pick on form.

That Lyon side is a bit of a shell side it seems - no Bamba, Ngatai, Tuisova, Gill, Fearns, Cretin, Wisneiski etc.

They do have three 6'6 guys who are predominately locks in the backrow though, so it's going to be a battle up front and at lineout. So will be interesting to see how Deegan goes in that context.

Buttin has a bit of history in the RDS also!

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Deegan over Doris is a brilliant call. Showing the team that they pick on form (though Doris is in great form too), but mainly showing the two players that there isn't really a pecking order between them and keeping the competition between them very alive. I expect Doris to have an impressive cameo in the second half.

Anyone else surprised to see Fardy captaining the side ahead of Ruddock?

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Laighin Break wrote:Deegan over Doris is a brilliant call. Showing the team that they pick on form (though Doris is in great form too), but mainly showing the two players that there isn't really a pecking order between them and keeping the competition between them very alive. I expect Doris to have an impressive cameo in the second half.

Anyone else surprised to see Fardy captaining the side ahead of Ruddock?
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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Interesting selection from Lyon

Only six players who started in Lyon in November'19 are included - Roodt, Bruni - Nakaitaci, Regard (cap), Mignot - Arnold.

Some big names missing too - Bamba - Gill, Fearns - Couilloud , Wisniewski -

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wixfjord wrote:I really like that Deegan decision too. I would've gone for Doris but it just shows a willingness to pick on form.

That Lyon side is a bit of a shell side it seems - no Bamba, Ngatai, Tuisova, Gill, Fearns, Cretin, Wisneiski etc.

They do have three 6'6 guys who are predominately locks in the backrow though, so it's going to be a battle up front and at lineout. So will be interesting to see how Deegan goes in that context.

Buttin has a bit of history in the RDS also!
what's the history?

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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Lyon are obviously concentrating on Top 14 so the bonus point should be there for the taking.

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Re: Leinster v Lyon, 12th Jan 13:00

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bails wrote:Interesting selection from Lyon

Only six players who started in Lyon in November'19 are included - Roodt, Bruni - Nakaitaci, Regard (cap), Mignot - Arnold.

Some big names missing too - Bamba - Gill, Fearns - Couilloud , Wisniewski -

As mentioned above, they've loads of injuries: Barassi, Fernandez, Ric, Doussain, Julien Puricelli, Mignot, Goujon, Ivaldi, Fearns, Palission, Laporte, Couilloud...all injured.
Of the squad this week, Chaume and Lambey are making returns from injury.
Buttin, who is starting at outhalf, was also out injured the last few weeks. Not sure he ever played against us when he was with Clermont.

Given their injury list, it's probably not worth risking their big names for a dead rubber.
Bamba and Wisniewski played last weekend, when they won away.

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