Leinster Squad 20-21

[mildlyinterested]

I’m looking for players to show they have potential to be good European or international standard. We haven’t had any in Leinster even going back to Reddan and before him.

Luke McGrath helped us win a European Cup and has played 19 times for Ireland. I never understand why we choose to rewrite history because someone has had a bad game or is not the flavour of the month. He is only 27.

[mildlyinterested]

McBryde confirms Leavy has had setbacks:

“He took a full part in training today. So we’re just monitoring how he goes. He’s had a pretty bumpy journey to get back to full fitness.

“Little things have cropped up for Dan, but he’s kept himself in a positive mindset throughout and took a full part in the training session today.”

[ronk]

I’m looking for players to show they have potential to be good European or international standard. We haven’t had any in Leinster even going back to Reddan and before him.

Luke McGrath helped us win a European Cup and has played 19 times for Ireland. I never understand why we choose to rewrite history because someone has had a bad game or is not the flavour of the month. He is only 27.

And Whits won a RWC and was accepted but never seen as a hero.

I can't think of a scrumhalf in the pro era for Leinster who was seen as more than someone good enough to not lose rather than someone who wins games.

Now none of them were in the top 3-4 in the world in their position, but we were still over harsh. Rocky was the only time we had a world class blindside but there isn't the same lamentation.

[Jonny tight lips]

McBryde confirms Leavy has had setbacks:

“He took a full part in training today. So we’re just monitoring how he goes. He’s had a pretty bumpy journey to get back to full fitness.

“Little things have cropped up for Dan, but he’s kept himself in a positive mindset throughout and took a full part in the training session today.”

Hope to see him playing soon and hope he can get back to where he was, wasn’t so long ago an I just like that could see you being lucky to get full normal use of your leg back.

[LeinsterLeader]

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[mildlyinterested]

All IRFU contract negotiations are on hold as a result of the financial impact of the pandemic, putting French and English clubs on alert.

Furlong, Sexton, O'Mahony, Stander, Earls, Henderson all up in June

"Unless there is a return to some level of normality within the next 12 months, the IRFU and the Provinces will have to drastically cut their budgets to ensure costs are covered by the lower revenues"

The union has reported a €35.7m deficit and has stepped in to pay the provinces' wages on a loan basis because they don't have the cash

In 2019, the IRFU reported a surplus of €28m

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 59775.html

[neiliog93]

All IRFU contract negotiations are on hold as a result of the financial impact of the pandemic, putting French and English clubs on alert.

Furlong, Sexton, O'Mahony, Stander, Earls, Henderson all up in June

"Unless there is a return to some level of normality within the next 12 months, the IRFU and the Provinces will have to drastically cut their budgets to ensure costs are covered by the lower revenues"

The union has reported a €35.7m deficit and has stepped in to pay the provinces' wages on a loan basis because they don't have the cash

In 2019, the IRFU reported a surplus of €28m

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 59775.html

The only ones it would be a disaster to lose are Furlong and Henderson. Stander would be quite a loss too. This is cutting but the other three, given age and form, wouldn't really matter.

[cormac]

Broken jaw for Ringer, out for 4-6 weeks

[ronk]

Broken jaw for Ringer, out for 4-6 weeks

Ireland already have too many centres in the squad and Leinster weren’t going to get to use him. An injury is never good news but the timing isn’t bad at least.

[mildlyinterested]

All IRFU contract negotiations are on hold as a result of the financial impact of the pandemic, putting French and English clubs on alert.

Furlong, Sexton, O'Mahony, Stander, Earls, Henderson all up in June

"Unless there is a return to some level of normality within the next 12 months, the IRFU and the Provinces will have to drastically cut their budgets to ensure costs are covered by the lower revenues"

The union has reported a €35.7m deficit and has stepped in to pay the provinces' wages on a loan basis because they don't have the cash

In 2019, the IRFU reported a surplus of €28m

https://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/ ... 59775.html

The only ones it would be a disaster to lose are Furlong and Henderson. Stander would be quite a loss too. This is cutting but the other three, given age and form, wouldn't really matter.

Healy isn't mentioned but he is also coming of a central deal in June 2021.

[ronk]

Maybe he’s already done his extension.

[mildlyinterested]

Maybe he’s already done his extension.

i'd imagine that's optimistic.

[Ruckedtobits]

Would it be beneficial for Leinster if Leo offered Connacht six-month loans of Charlie Ryan, Martin Moloney & David Hawkshaw? It's hard to see how these guys are going to get any game time in Leinster in the coming months and equally Connacht look like they could run into real player shortages in these positions as the season progresses.

Connacht certainly seems a Province in which young players get well coached and get opportunities when their form warrants inclusion.

[CiaranIrl]

Would it be beneficial for Leinster if Leo offered Connacht six-month loans of Charlie Ryan, Martin Moloney & David Hawkshaw? It's hard to see how these guys are going to get any game time in Leinster in the coming months and equally Connacht look like they could run into real player shortages in these positions as the season progresses.

Connacht certainly seems a Province in which young players get well coached and get opportunities when their form warrants inclusion.

Ryan and Hawkshaw, yes, but we'll definitely need Maloney. We'll have two locks absent with Ireland, and Maloney is the next off the line when Fardy and Toner aren't playing.

[mildlyinterested]

Would it be beneficial for Leinster if Leo offered Connacht six-month loans of Charlie Ryan, Martin Moloney & David Hawkshaw? It's hard to see how these guys are going to get any game time in Leinster in the coming months and equally Connacht look like they could run into real player shortages in these positions as the season progresses.

Connacht certainly seems a Province in which young players get well coached and get opportunities when their form warrants inclusion.

if we want to lose them for good, yeah it's a great idea.

Hawkshaw was due to get game time on friday but for injury.

A case could have been made that one of the academy 9's should have went to Munster instead of Ben Murphy, but Leinster clearly weren't going for that and they should resist any movement of leinster contracted players to other provinces.

Now if Leinster don't deem them to have futures at leinster beyond this season, then by all means they let them try earn a contract out west.

[mildlyinterested]

Would it be beneficial for Leinster if Leo offered Connacht six-month loans of Charlie Ryan, Martin Moloney & David Hawkshaw? It's hard to see how these guys are going to get any game time in Leinster in the coming months and equally Connacht look like they could run into real player shortages in these positions as the season progresses.

Connacht certainly seems a Province in which young players get well coached and get opportunities when their form warrants inclusion.

Ryan and Hawkshaw, yes, but we'll definitely need Maloney. We'll have two locks absent with Ireland, and Maloney is the next off the line when Fardy and Toner aren't playing.

Martin Moloney is a backrow, you are thinking of Ross.

[Pilotman123]

Would it be beneficial for Leinster if Leo offered Connacht six-month loans of Charlie Ryan, Martin Moloney & David Hawkshaw? It's hard to see how these guys are going to get any game time in Leinster in the coming months and equally Connacht look like they could run into real player shortages in these positions as the season progresses.

Connacht certainly seems a Province in which young players get well coached and get opportunities when their form warrants inclusion.

Ryan and Hawkshaw, yes, but we'll definitely need Maloney. We'll have two locks absent with Ireland, and Maloney is the next off the line when Fardy and Toner aren't playing.

Can’t see Hawkshaw being stuck for game time when fit, he’s just been injured, was meant to play in the game on Friday but pulled out with a groin strain

[Ruckedtobits]

Would it be beneficial for Leinster if Leo offered Connacht six-month loans of Charlie Ryan, Martin Moloney & David Hawkshaw? It's hard to see how these guys are going to get any game time in Leinster in the coming months and equally Connacht look like they could run into real player shortages in these positions as the season progresses.

Connacht certainly seems a Province in which young players get well coached and get opportunities when their form warrants inclusion.

if we want to lose them for good, yeah it's a great idea.

Hawkshaw was due to get game time on friday but for injury.

A case could have been made that one of the academy 9's should have went to Munster instead of Ben Murphy, but Leinster clearly weren't going for that and they should resist any movement of leinster contracted players to other provinces.

Now if Leinster don't deem them to have futures at leinster beyond this season, then by all means they let them try earn a contract out west.

The idea of putting them out on loan would be to avoid losing them, at least in the near future. Each position looks like it's very tight in numbers and if we can't get more A fixtures, the best that all three will see is AIL in January.

[mildlyinterested]

don't see it that way myself, if they head on loan out west i'd consider it extremely unlikely they'd be interested in returning to leinster to battle it out for game time when they have so much guaranteed out west.

has a loan of a leinster player to another province ever benefited leinster?

[ronk]

don't see it that way myself, if they head on loan out west i'd consider it extremely unlikely they'd be interested in returning to leinster to battle it out for game time when they have so much guaranteed out west.

has a loan of a leinster player to another province ever benefited leinster?

Yes, but not in the way you mean.

We’ve gotten wages off the books and doing right by those lads builds trust and loyalty with the others. Also it builds karma for when we’ve recruited from Connacht.