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Fullback options going forward

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Some concern has been expressed about Leinster's options at 15 going forward with RK leaving at the end of the season, below are 4 young options of varying ability and experience:

Jordan Larmour(23) - 46 caps, signed contract in 2020
Hugo Keenan(24) - 14 caps, signed contract in 2019
Jimmy O'Brien(23) - 17 caps, signed contract in 2019
Ciaran Frawley(22) - 25 caps, signed contract in 2019

This is discounting players like Cian Kelleher(26), James Lowe(28) and Dave Kearney(31) who also have experience playing 15 as well as any potential fullbacks who may be in the academy.
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And James Lowe who has played 15 for the Maori All Blacks and Leinster. As far as I can remember.

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johng wrote:And James Lowe who has played 15 for the Maori All Blacks and Leinster. As far as I can remember.
Has he played there for Leinster? I'd put him in the group of players who can play there but it's pretty unlikely he ever will start a game for Leinster there.

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mildlyinterested wrote:
johng wrote:And James Lowe who has played 15 for the Maori All Blacks and Leinster. As far as I can remember.
Has he played there for Leinster? I'd put him in the group of players who can play there but it's pretty unlikely he ever will start a game for Leinster there.
He's been strictly a left wing for us and I could see that being the same going forward, except for the international aspect. Do you move him or do you move Stockdale? Assuming you want them both on the pitch.

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There are plenty of bodies but we will miss Rob.

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Have we got any full forward options going back?

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johng wrote:Have we got any full forward options going back?
Lockdown getting to you? :wink:
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IMO, Hugo Keenan put in a very strong application for this post in the Season so far. Jordan Larmour looked like the ordained inheritor but Hugo looks a better full-back without the same startling skills as Larmour.

Jimmy O'Brien is a really versatile player and, given game time, could yet become a real contender. Ciaran Frawley could also graduate to the No 1t jersey if Leinster want to focus on playing a second play-maker.

Is Larmour a better winger than a full-back? Are Leinster a better team with a positionally strong full back? Can Keenan continuee his development as a counter-attacking full-back when he gets more attention from opponents at a higher level?

Apart from looking forward to our results, it is in areas like this that I am really optimistic about the prospects of how we'll develop our options at full-back.

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IMO, Hugo Keenan put in a very strong application for this post in the Season so far. Jordan Larmour looked like the ordained inheritor but Hugo looks a better full-back without the same startling skills as Larmour.

Jimmy O'Brien is a really versatile player and, given game time, could yet become a real contender. Ciaran Frawley could also graduate to the No 15 jersey if Leinster want to focus on playing a second play-maker.

Is Larmour a better winger than a full-back? Are Leinster a better team with a positionally strong full back? Can Keenan continuee his development as a counter-attacking full-back when he gets more attention from opponents at a higher level?

Apart from looking forward to our results, it is in areas like this that I am really optimistic about the prospects of how we'll develop our options at full-back.

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Yep Keenan was really impressive this season, would love to see him given a shot in a full side in a bigger game.

Would be good to see Frawley get a good few games back there too. He brings something that none of the others do really. Not sure he's going to make it at 10 for us so would be interesting to see if he can give that proper second playmaker option.

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Larmour in the papers saying he has been working on stepping in at 1st/2nd receiver.

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mildlyinterested wrote:
August 13th, 2020, 8:07 am
Larmour in the papers saying he has been working on stepping in at 1st/2nd receiver.
Hope that goes ok. It'll tax his skill set. He's a stepper and a damn fine one. Decide and distribute isnt for everyone.

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Watching the Northampton v Leinster and England v Ireland games again one thing that sticks out is England's first try.
Northampton tried something similar and it nearly came off.
Wouldn't have happened in Rob's day.
Rob, like Dempsey before him, has incredible positional sense.
Keenan looks a more natural 15 and perhaps Larmour should be considered for the 13 jersey.
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ronk wrote:
August 13th, 2020, 9:53 am
mildlyinterested wrote:
August 13th, 2020, 8:07 am
Larmour in the papers saying he has been working on stepping in at 1st/2nd receiver.
Hope that goes ok. It'll tax his skill set. He's a stepper and a damn fine one. Decide and distribute isnt for everyone.

The way the game is going I think fullbacks will need to be playmakers to help break down defences. They need to have a broad skillset to threaten defences more.


George Ford talked about stopping Ireland by targeting Sexton and how everything goes through Sexton. So options at 15 and/or 12 would help the attack become more unpredictable.


I think all fullbacks need to expand their game or be pushed in that direction. I think Hawkshaw could potentially play there and be that option. He was fantastic at creating space for others and himself for the Irish U20s with great footwork and awareness. He was playing 12 then.

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So who is going to be playing 15 for the forseeable future?

Keenan is away with Ireland, Larmour is injured.

Kelleher? JOB?

Personally i'd be happy to see JOB get a good run there.

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JOB for me, what about Silvester? He still knocking about on?

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Jonny tight lips wrote:
October 12th, 2020, 1:01 pm
JOB for me, what about Silvester? He still knocking about on?
He is.. but can't see him playing 15 ahead of JOB.

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Dunno what the story is with O'Sullivan, no sign of him for A's or recent academy training photos.

Smith is possible, although unlikely.. probably needs a few more injuries.

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mildlyinterested wrote:
October 12th, 2020, 3:42 pm
Dunno what the story is with O'Sullivan, no sign of him for A's or recent academy training photos.

Smith is possible, although unlikely.. probably needs a few more injuries.
Isn't O'Sullivan with Ireland 7s

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