Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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I found that we were trying to offload more than usual. I wonder is this our way of compensating for the fact that our regular phase building style will be tougher under the stricter ruck interpretation in place now?

Very good result to pick a bp whilst trying to evolve our style.

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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Cianostays wrote:
October 10th, 2020, 11:06 pm
I found that we were trying to offload more than usual. I wonder is this our way of compensating for the fact that our regular phase building style will be tougher under the stricter ruck interpretation in place now?

Very good result to pick a bp whilst trying to evolve our style.

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I would imagine you've hit the nail on the head there. Very sensible adaptation to a misguided change in the rule interpretation. If done well, the offloading style also means scores come with less effort, and less need to dominate possession.
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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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It was frustrating refereeing. Why spend so long looking at whether Conan knocked on and then award a penalty try anyway.

Whitehouse also called our back line offside from a driven maul at a line out. If you are going to be that fussy then at least call them. On about 47 minutes on their own 5m they charged up so early that they were ahead of the ball when the line out ended and they had to stop running. Nothing called.

He also started to warn us 1st penalty after Ryan’s card.

About 41 minutes he warns Tracey for a soft hit with a lecture about not being born yesterday. He hadn’t even called set in the scrum.

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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Twist wrote:
October 10th, 2020, 10:59 pm
I’m watching the buaicphointí on TG4 now. Yeah their glee isn't well concealed. "WE HAVE A GAME NOW!""THIS IS INTERESTING!" Etc

I thought they were showing the whole match actually. If anyone knows of the full game being available anywhere then hit a brotha up.

Those injuries to Larmour and Deegan in successive weeks are a real downer.
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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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Treviso fought hard last few 6 minutes looking for the double bonus point. Good side, made us work for that.

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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It was a frustrating match where we never quite established continuity (not helped by a thought day in the office for the ref). Benetton were awkward but far from their best. Hard to comment on the scrum as it was a mess, the lineout went well but there will be some concern over the maul.
I think Ross Byrne (no idea how he was awarded ‘Best Player’ or whatever it’s called nowadays) is too static when he takes the ball, the 3/4s is too flat resulting in a lateral passing game where our wide men, too often, are tackle targets for a rush D.
There were a lot of silly dropped balls and turnovers; 5 dropped balls between E Byrne and J Ryan alone - reminds me of the anecdote about Joe telling Drico “great players catch those”.
I thought the backrow was benign, for me Dorris isn’t a 6 and when Rhys came in you could see what a genuine 6 does.
Watching the Bledisloe, both sides are lethal off turnover ball; I’ve never understood why Irish sides, particularly the back three, can’t counter as a unit. Lowe and JGP (I thought he had a really good game) just seem more mentally attuned to running trail lines and knowing where the support runner is.
I definitely noted more of an emphasis on offloading and it will be interesting to see this evolve throughout the season.
All told good to get five points against a tricky BT side. Fingers crossed for Larmour.

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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In fairness, Benetton are a renowned mauling team and clearly set up their pack for that.

I would totally agree on Rhys. For me he's our starting 6.

Thought Keenan was really good too. Very assured.

Anyone have any stats on our offload numbers? I see ESPN aren't doing stats for Pro14 any more.

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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I’ve previously said on here that Doris should be a 6 but I must admit that Rhys stepped it up a level when he came on.

Rhys really is a seriously high-quality player.

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Re: Benetton v. Leinster, Sat 10 Oct, 1715hrs

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wixfjord wrote:Anyone have any stats on our offload numbers? I see ESPN aren't doing stats for Pro14 any more.
Ultimate Rugby has us down for 8 offloads total, two from Keenan, and one for Doris, Henshaw, JGP, Ryan, Baird and Connors. No idea where they get their stats from however.

For comparison, we had 12 offloads vs Dragons, 3 vs Saracens, 4 vs Ulster (final), 4 vs Munster (semi-final), 1 vs Ulster in the regular pro 14 game and 2 vs Munster in the first game of the restarted season.

Looks like we are trending towards more offloads anyway.

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Mods please move/delete as you see fit, but is acrossthetasman.com down? Missed the second half.
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John23 wrote:
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Mods please move/delete as you see fit, but is acrossthetasman.com down? Missed the second half.
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Thank you kindly

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