First to be sent off and time of first scrap

scotscor · Post by **scotscor** » April 20th, 2006, 12:44 pm

Oscar wrote:
scotscor wrote:An excellent player, but because he doesnt do some of the showy stuff a lot of its missed/forgotten.
Yet all of Munster wanted Girv dropped from the Irish team..?

not all oscar, but look what it has done for his game. Its a fair comparison. 11/2 against leinster not scoring a try. not very likely methionks

CRAZYDAVE · Post by **CRAZYDAVE** » April 20th, 2006, 1:05 pm

Don't forget that Felipe has had his fair share of yellow cards this season !

Although Reggie is the sin bin specialist when it comes to matches against Munster !

Danthefan · Post by **Danthefan** » April 20th, 2006, 1:08 pm

scotscor wrote:
jezzer wrote:Not if Foley puts his there first....
true he may well be kicked in his nether regions.
Foley doesnt miss tackles, and if he gets the ball he invariably does the right thing with it.
What some seem to forget he has scored 22 tries in the HEC, and is in with a reasonable chance of becoming the first to score 25. An excellent player, but because he doesnt do some of the showy stuff a lot of its missed/forgotten.

Yeah but he's been playing it for 10 years, his strike rate isn't that great.

CarrigMan · Post by **CarrigMan** » April 20th, 2006, 1:09 pm

Uncle Mort wrote:
CarrigMan wrote:I think the game will be an error-ridden affair, filled with tension and fear of failure from both sides
There's someone who obviously hasn't seen the new Leinster

Not true Uncle Mort. The fear of failure thing will have to be in all players minds, despite Cheika/Knox's wonderful and re-freshing approach. It's OK when you're the underdog playing away from home at say The Rec or Le Stadium but we'll see on the day.

Gleeson has been brilliant for Leinster against Bath and Toulouse, MOTM material in my view. His tratment by EO'S in the Ireland scheme of things was strange to say the least.

I believe that the match on Sunday will be won or lost through errors by the back-row. The "no hans, no hans" bleating by Ms Jutdge will eventually result in a ball scavanging back-row player being binned. Since the best of them is Gleeson, it could be him.

sewa · Post by **sewa** » April 20th, 2006, 1:11 pm

Danthefan wrote:
scotscor wrote:
jezzer wrote:Not if Foley puts his there first....
true he may well be kicked in his nether regions.
Foley doesnt miss tackles, and if he gets the ball he invariably does the right thing with it.
What some seem to forget he has scored 22 tries in the HEC, and is in with a reasonable chance of becoming the first to score 25. An excellent player, but because he doesnt do some of the showy stuff a lot of its missed/forgotten.
Yeah but he's been playing it for 10 years, his strike rate isn't that great.

Clutching at straws of the highest order. No other forward is even close.

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » April 20th, 2006, 1:12 pm

sewa wrote:
Danthefan wrote:
scotscor wrote: true he may well be kicked in his nether regions.
Foley doesnt miss tackles, and if he gets the ball he invariably does the right thing with it.
What some seem to forget he has scored 22 tries in the HEC, and is in with a reasonable chance of becoming the first to score 25. An excellent player, but because he doesnt do some of the showy stuff a lot of its missed/forgotten.
Yeah but he's been playing it for 10 years, his strike rate isn't that great.
Clutching at straws of the highest order. No other forward is even close.

None of your backs are either.....

Leinsterman · Post by **Leinsterman** » April 20th, 2006, 1:19 pm

Could we see one of the first ever yellow cards for diving being dished out?
In hat case, I nominate jurgen Flannery for hitting the deck after squealing that he's been gouged or head-butted in a scrum.

Dave Cahill · Post by **Dave Cahill** » April 20th, 2006, 1:20 pm

Leinsterman wrote:Could we see one of the first ever yellow cards for diving being dished out?
In hat case, I nominate jurgen Flannery for hitting the deck after squealing that he's been gouged or head-butted in a scrum.

Don't forget Pippo Dowling

Danthefan · Post by **Danthefan** » April 20th, 2006, 1:21 pm

sewa wrote:
Danthefan wrote:
scotscor wrote: true he may well be kicked in his nether regions.
Foley doesnt miss tackles, and if he gets the ball he invariably does the right thing with it.
What some seem to forget he has scored 22 tries in the HEC, and is in with a reasonable chance of becoming the first to score 25. An excellent player, but because he doesnt do some of the showy stuff a lot of its missed/forgotten.
Yeah but he's been playing it for 10 years, his strike rate isn't that great.
Clutching at straws of the highest order. No other forward is even close.

Ok you're right, all of Leinster are cowering in fear of the try scoring machine that is Foley.

Sundy · Post by **Sundy** » April 20th, 2006, 1:28 pm

i think Dowling will walk at some stage, he doesnt seem to know the meaning of not gettin involved. I think foley will need to keep an eye on him to stop him boiling over

epaddy · Post by **epaddy** » April 20th, 2006, 1:47 pm

Sundy wrote:i think Dowling will walk at some stage, he doesnt seem to know the meaning of not gettin involved. I think foley will need to keep an eye on him to stop him boiling over

Didier Dowling

Danthefan · Post by **Danthefan** » April 20th, 2006, 1:50 pm

I'm gonna be different and say there will be no yellow cards.

jezzer · Post by **jezzer** » April 20th, 2006, 1:51 pm

Sundy wrote:i think Dowling will walk at some stage, he doesnt seem to know the meaning of not gettin involved. I think foley will need to keep an eye on him to stop him boiling over

Filthy, those Leinster players

Farren · Post by **Farren** » April 20th, 2006, 1:57 pm

Danthefan wrote:I'm gonna be different and say there will be no yellow cards.

interesting point of view but thats never going to happen id say at least 3 yellows during the course of the first ten minutes followed by a period of tea and crumpets and a gentle chat concerning the summer tour down south followed by another frenzy of yellows

scotscor · Post by **scotscor** » April 20th, 2006, 2:10 pm

Farren wrote:
Danthefan wrote:I'm gonna be different and say there will be no yellow cards.
interesting point of view but thats never going to happen id say at least 3 yellows during the course of the first ten minutes followed by a period of tea and crumpets and a gentle chat concerning the summer tour down south followed by another frenzy of yellows

would be inclined to agree with this. Reggie will walk and le puc too. Leamy probably wont start, so our back five forwards wont lose their temper but doc could be a tad enthusiastic.
Over the last few years Munster have had the edge in discipline.
If ROG and POC play well, I think we will be fine. ROG is a big if, and if he doesnt start I dont see us winning

thecoolfreak · Post by **thecoolfreak** » April 20th, 2006, 2:13 pm

Both teams i reckon will be pretty well behaved on Sunday. Both sides will have been warned by their respective coaches beforehand and will know that getting sin binned could cause their side to lose the match.

Duke Raoul · Post by **Duke Raoul** » April 20th, 2006, 2:22 pm

Eric Miller for me. Everytime he's come on of late he's been like a demon. When he started against Connacht he was even bloody worse!

And it's not like he doesn't have 'form' in this particular fixture...

ckav · Post by **ckav** » April 20th, 2006, 3:05 pm

CarrigMan wrote:
Uncle Mort wrote:
CarrigMan wrote:I think the game will be an error-ridden affair, filled with tension and fear of failure from both sides
There's someone who obviously hasn't seen the new Leinster
Not true Uncle Mort. The fear of failure thing will have to be in all players minds, despite Cheika/Knox's wonderful and re-freshing approach. It's OK when you're the underdog playing away from home at say The Rec or Le Stadium but we'll see on the day.
.

Hi Carraig

You raise an interesting point about the Irish psyche of the "underdog" there. Thing is, Im' not sure that has ever existed at Leinster. I think our guys have had their off-days in recent years, partially due to the all-too-regular coaching crises over the past few seasons and maybe also due to poor man-management. They seem to have taken a step up in terms of professionalism and attitude under Cheika and Knoxie. I honestly believe that for those blokes, the attitude of the underdog and the home and away thing just doesn't figure. Their attitude post-Toulouse was typically understated and businesslike. When we were all losing our heads and crying with happiness, they were calm and rational. One of the many reasons to be seriously in awe of what the coaches have achieved, inside a year.

bluesky · Post by **bluesky** » April 20th, 2006, 3:09 pm

Duke Raoul wrote:Eric Miller for me. Everytime he's come on of late he's been like a demon. When he started against Connacht he was even bloody worse! And it's not like he doesn't have 'form' in this particular fixture...

Eric was actually injured hence why he lost the head, it was mere frustration at being injured rather than what was going on...!!!

I thought he was excellent when he came on for Cameron on Friday...

Duke Raoul · Post by **Duke Raoul** » April 20th, 2006, 3:14 pm

bluesky wrote:
Duke Raoul wrote:Eric Miller for me. Everytime he's come on of late he's been like a demon. When he started against Connacht he was even bloody worse! And it's not like he doesn't have 'form' in this particular fixture...
Eric was actually injured hence why he lost the head, it was mere frustration at being injured rather than what was going on...!!!

I thought he was excellent when he came on for Cameron on Friday...

He was, but the slight concern I have about him at the moment is that in the final days of his career he might just be trying that bit too hard. He's been a magnificent player for us, I'd hate to see him go out like Holwell.

Babbling 'brook

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