IRFU & no 16th man at the Aviva
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Look, its pretty straightforward regarding the atmosphere at Rugby matches. A good performance from a winning side generates a better atmosphere.
I was never a great fan of Croker, but the atmosphere we played England that first time, and then the performance that day, it was pretty amazing. Pretty morbid though when Scotland won the last 6N match there.
It was good at the new stadium when we beat England last March but we played well that day too.
Leinster have performed generally to a very high standard there whereas Ireland haven't. Hence the atmosphere at Leinster matches tends to be very good.
Like it or not it seems a lot of Irish Rugby fans (of whatever colour) are great at getting behind a team doing well, but are not so good when a struggling team needs a lift. This is of course a huge generalisation and I certainly notice it more in LR when Ireland play but then again Leinster have by and large been very successful in the last number of years.
I was never a great fan of Croker, but the atmosphere we played England that first time, and then the performance that day, it was pretty amazing. Pretty morbid though when Scotland won the last 6N match there.
It was good at the new stadium when we beat England last March but we played well that day too.
Leinster have performed generally to a very high standard there whereas Ireland haven't. Hence the atmosphere at Leinster matches tends to be very good.
Like it or not it seems a lot of Irish Rugby fans (of whatever colour) are great at getting behind a team doing well, but are not so good when a struggling team needs a lift. This is of course a huge generalisation and I certainly notice it more in LR when Ireland play but then again Leinster have by and large been very successful in the last number of years.
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Not even a team doing well- playing with invention could be enoughLar wrote:Look, its pretty straightforward regarding the atmosphere at Rugby matches. A good performance from a winning side generates a better atmosphere.
I was never a great fan of Croker, but the atmosphere we played England that first time, and then the performance that day, it was pretty amazing. Pretty morbid though when Scotland won the last 6N match there.
It was good at the new stadium when we beat England last March but we played well that day too.
Leinster have performed generally to a very high standard there whereas Ireland haven't. Hence the atmosphere at Leinster matches tends to be very good.
Like it or not it seems a lot of Irish Rugby fans (of whatever colour) are great at getting behind a team doing well, but are not so good when a struggling team needs a lift. This is of course a huge generalisation and I certainly notice it more in LR when Ireland play but then again Leinster have by and large been very successful in the last number of years.
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I think that day was probably the worst it has ever been. I can't recall another match where the booing was so bad that the opposition outhalf commented on the treatment of the home outhalf by the home fans.kendalgerty wrote:I can't stand this, it makes me so cross. I witnessed it at the lamentable Irelnd v Scotland game when we butchered a triple crown. Two absolute muppets a few seats down for me started with their 'Get ROG on!' after Sexton missed a penalty. It's pretty disgusting to see people hoping for an Irish player to fail in a green jersey.Hippo wrote: The attitude to Sexton from certain sections of the crowd has been a problem for quite a while now, and it seems to me that he's a target in a way that few other (Irish) players are.
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I think the lack of atmosphere at internationals is mainly down to the IRFU really and their efforts to turn international games in to mainly corporate events thanks to their stupid distribution of tickets.
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I remember Irish games in the 80s, when we were fairly competitive. The crowd still went quiet when things weren't going well. It's nothing new.
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Maybe if the media (and website's like this) discouraged images and avators like RavenhillRaider people might move on:brummie-leinster-man wrote:I heard lots of jeering and sections of the crowd laughing when Sexton was preparing to take kicks at goal, anybody know what that was about?
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Hippo wrote:The attitude to Sexton from certain sections of the crowd has been a problem for quite a while now, and it seems to me that he's a target in a way that few other (Irish) players are. They don't like him at all down south, as anyone who's attended our games at Mordor could testify. This is a new phenomenon, ROG never had to deal with anything like that at the same stage of his career.
Matt Williams went on quite a rant about how badly ROG has been treated by the media and public over the years on Newstalk. No one had to put up with the shite that ROG & his family had to put up with. FFS, the Indo called him a lout. And some of the tabloids were on his doorstep spreading all sorts of rumours. Who was behind all of that?
ROG wrote about in his book some of the stuff his wife had to listen at international games and how difficult it was for her.
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janeymac08 wrote:Hippo wrote:The attitude to Sexton from certain sections of the crowd has been a problem for quite a while now, and it seems to me that he's a target in a way that few other (Irish) players are. They don't like him at all down south, as anyone who's attended our games at Mordor could testify. This is a new phenomenon, ROG never had to deal with anything like that at the same stage of his career.
Matt Williams went on quite a rant about how badly ROG has been treated by the media and public over the years on Newstalk. No one had to put up with the shite that ROG & his family had to put up with. FFS, the Indo called him a lout. And some of the tabloids were on his doorstep spreading all sorts of rumours. Who was behind all of that?
ROG wrote about in his book some of the stuff his wife had to listen at international games and how difficult it was for her.
all well and good, but what has that got to do with sexton?
are you offering this as justification?
he must have really being acting the bollix if the munsterpendent called him names, and so he probably deserved it.
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That's not right either. But two wrongs don't make a right.janeymac08 wrote:Hippo wrote:The attitude to Sexton from certain sections of the crowd has been a problem for quite a while now, and it seems to me that he's a target in a way that few other (Irish) players are. They don't like him at all down south, as anyone who's attended our games at Mordor could testify. This is a new phenomenon, ROG never had to deal with anything like that at the same stage of his career.
Matt Williams went on quite a rant about how badly ROG has been treated by the media and public over the years on Newstalk. No one had to put up with the shite that ROG & his family had to put up with. FFS, the Indo called him a lout. And some of the tabloids were on his doorstep spreading all sorts of rumours. Who was behind all of that?
ROG wrote about in his book some of the stuff his wife had to listen at international games and how difficult it was for her.
Imo, the atmosphere at Lansdowne Road, is down to purely because it's full of day trippers for the Ireland games. I had the misfortune of taking a premium seat for the Leinster Munster game earlier this season. I couldn't believe it, it was cr@p. No atmosphere at all, two birds beside me chatting the whole way through, people hopping up to get drinks. I swore never ever again. At Ireland games, that's multiplied many times over.
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eh, hippo made the point that only Sexton gets abuse. He isn't.berniemac67 wrote:janeymac08 wrote:Hippo wrote:The attitude to Sexton from certain sections of the crowd has been a problem for quite a while now, and it seems to me that he's a target in a way that few other (Irish) players are. They don't like him at all down south, as anyone who's attended our games at Mordor could testify. This is a new phenomenon, ROG never had to deal with anything like that at the same stage of his career.
Matt Williams went on quite a rant about how badly ROG has been treated by the media and public over the years on Newstalk. No one had to put up with the shite that ROG & his family had to put up with. FFS, the Indo called him a lout. And some of the tabloids were on his doorstep spreading all sorts of rumours. Who was behind all of that?
ROG wrote about in his book some of the stuff his wife had to listen at international games and how difficult it was for her.
all well and good, but what has that got to do with sexton?
are you offering this as justification?
he must have really being acting the bollix if the munsterpendent called him names, and so he probably deserved it.
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I used to go to a fair few Leinster games as I live in Dublin, so I know what you are talking about. The tiny mini skirts and the fake tanned goosepimpled legs was not a pretty sight but entertaining!simplythebest wrote:That's not right either. But two wrongs don't make a right.janeymac08 wrote:Hippo wrote:The attitude to Sexton from certain sections of the crowd has been a problem for quite a while now, and it seems to me that he's a target in a way that few other (Irish) players are. They don't like him at all down south, as anyone who's attended our games at Mordor could testify. This is a new phenomenon, ROG never had to deal with anything like that at the same stage of his career.
Matt Williams went on quite a rant about how badly ROG has been treated by the media and public over the years on Newstalk. No one had to put up with the shite that ROG & his family had to put up with. FFS, the Indo called him a lout. And some of the tabloids were on his doorstep spreading all sorts of rumours. Who was behind all of that?
ROG wrote about in his book some of the stuff his wife had to listen at international games and how difficult it was for her.
Imo, the atmosphere at Lansdowne Road, is down to purely because it's full of day trippers for the Ireland games. I had the misfortune of taking a premium seat for the Leinster Munster game earlier this season. I couldn't believe it, it was cr@p. No atmosphere at all, two birds beside me chatting the whole way through, people hopping up to get drinks. I swore never ever again. At Ireland games, that's multiplied many times over.
I gave up going to Leinster games though when the crowd looked and sounded a bit too pleased to see Peter Stringer being carted off on a stretcher.
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janeymac08 wrote:eh, hippo made the point that only Sexton gets abuse. He isn't.berniemac67 wrote:janeymac08 wrote: Matt Williams went on quite a rant about how badly ROG has been treated by the media and public over the years on Newstalk. No one had to put up with the shite that ROG & his family had to put up with. FFS, the Indo called him a lout. And some of the tabloids were on his doorstep spreading all sorts of rumours. Who was behind all of that?
ROG wrote about in his book some of the stuff his wife had to listen at international games and how difficult it was for her.
all well and good, but what has that got to do with sexton?
are you offering this as justification?
he must have really being acting the bollix if the munsterpendent called him names, and so he probably deserved it.
eh, hippo never claimed that only sexton gets abuse, at least not in this thread.
eh, he said he gets a lot of abuse, more than most others and more than rog got at the same stage in his career. eh, this doesn't seem too outrageous a statement to me.
and eh, he isn't what?
eh, so there!
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berniemac67 wrote:janeymac08 wrote:eh, hippo made the point that only Sexton gets abuse. He isn't.berniemac67 wrote:[
all well and good, but what has that got to do with sexton?
are you offering this as justification?
he must have really being acting the bollix if the munsterpendent called him names, and so he probably deserved it.
eh, hippo never claimed that only sexton gets abuse, at least not in this thread.
eh, he said he gets a lot of abuse, more than most others and more than rog got at the same stage in his career. eh, this doesn't seem too outrageous a statement to me.
and eh, he isn't what?
eh, so there!
Well then, its a case of 'live by the sword, die by the sword'.
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janeymac08 wrote:berniemac67 wrote:janeymac08 wrote: eh, hippo never claimed that only sexton gets abuse, at least not in this thread.
eh, he said he gets a lot of abuse, more than most others and more than rog got at the same stage in his career. eh, this doesn't seem too outrageous a statement to me.
and eh, he isn't what?
eh, so there!
Well then, its a case of 'live by the sword, die by the sword'.
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thanks for this. you've made my day. this is nearly as good as rog sprinting in vain to catch bod as he runs under the posts a few minutes later.
i love your use of non sequiturs by the way, very impressive how everything you write is unconnected to what you are replying to.
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Bernie, I'll type slowly for you. Sexton isn't popular with a lot of the general public because they think he was very disrespectful to O'Gara. The long and the short of that is that if he is able to dish out abuse, people expect him to be able to take it as he has demonstrated that it is a a mode of communications that he seems at ease with.berniemac67 wrote:janeymac08 wrote:berniemac67 wrote:
thanks for this. you've made my day. this is nearly as good as rog sprinting in vain to catch bod as he runs under the posts a few minutes later.
i love your use of non sequiturs by the way, very impressive how everything you write is unconnected to what you are replying to.
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You might want to type even more slowly. One 'a' is enough; and mode is singular so its 'a mode of communication' . Now for the content: quite informative of your mindset really; full of generalisations, and misrepresentations. Why don't you just have the courage of your conviction and say what you really mean. Substitute 'me' for 'a lot of the general public', 'I' for 'they'; 'I' for 'people'. Now I know why I had you on ignore, not sure how you escaped. Off to fix that now.
You might want to type even more slowly. One 'a' is enough; and mode is singular so its 'a mode of communication' . Now for the content: quite informative of your mindset really; full of generalisations, and misrepresentations. Why don't you just have the courage of your conviction and say what you really mean. Substitute 'me' for 'a lot of the general public', 'I' for 'they'; 'I' for 'people'. Now I know why I had you on ignore, not sure how you escaped. Off to fix that now.
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Perhaps the mods could get us a top five table but I'm betting Janeymac08 is the most "ignored" poster on this site!desperado wrote:Janeymac08
You might want to type even more slowly. One 'a' is enough; and mode is singular so its 'a mode of communication' . Now for the content: quite informative of your mindset really; full of generalisations, and misrepresentations. Why don't you just have the courage of your conviction and say what you really mean. Substitute 'me' for 'a lot of the general public', 'I' for 'they'; 'I' for 'people'. Now I know why I had you on ignore, not sure how you escaped. Off to fix that now.
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but then people miss so much good comedyDonny B. wrote:Perhaps the mods could get us a top five table but I'm betting Janeymac08 is the most "ignored" poster on this site!desperado wrote:Janeymac08
You might want to type even more slowly. One 'a' is enough; and mode is singular so its 'a mode of communication' . Now for the content: quite informative of your mindset really; full of generalisations, and misrepresentations. Why don't you just have the courage of your conviction and say what you really mean. Substitute 'me' for 'a lot of the general public', 'I' for 'they'; 'I' for 'people'. Now I know why I had you on ignore, not sure how you escaped. Off to fix that now.
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janeymac08 wrote:
Bernie, I'll type slowly for you. Sexton isn't popular with a lot of the general public because they think he was very disrespectful to O'Gara. The long and the short of that is that if he is able to dish out abuse, people expect him to be able to take it as he has demonstrated that it is a a mode of communications that he seems at ease with.
you can't type slowly enough to make sense
poor rog, he needs sympathy and protection because that horrible man was mean to him
even my 6 year old is more grown up than that
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Have been convinced for a very long time that janeymac08 is in actual fact a very young teenage girl. Some of the reactions on here at the mention of ROG's name remind me of how my daughter used to react when she was about 13 and I made fun of Chad Michael Murray (for those of you without teenage daughters he is a very pretty boy who was in a couple of lovey dovey films aimed specifically at teenage girls)berniemac67 wrote:janeymac08 wrote:
Bernie, I'll type slowly for you. Sexton isn't popular with a lot of the general public because they think he was very disrespectful to O'Gara. The long and the short of that is that if he is able to dish out abuse, people expect him to be able to take it as he has demonstrated that it is a a mode of communications that he seems at ease with.
you can't type slowly enough to make sense
poor rog, he needs sympathy and protection because that horrible man was mean to him
even my 6 year old is more grown up than that
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