Ireland v Georgia

[Dexter]

We may need an 8 who can cope well with a retreating scrum, none better than Heaslip, although I'd prefer if he got a break.

[simonokeeffe]

IT reporting that Best, Henry and someone else back for Australia but not Georgia

[johng]

Jordi Murphy's big white arse is in his way in my view. Not going to get a shot as he is just coming back from injury. Cope land is excellent at what he does but I'm not sure he has the all round game for Joe yet.

I'll take it from you that Jordi's arse is white. And please, do not submit any evidence.

It is in a pair of Ireland shorts....

Just an expression. don't take it to literally. Most of us Caucasians have white arses.

[blockhead]

Jordi Murphy's big white arse is in his way in my view. Not going to get a shot as he is just coming back from injury. Cope land is excellent at what he does but I'm not sure he has the all round game for Joe yet.

I'll take it from you that Jordi's arse is white. And please, do not submit any evidence.

It is in a pair of Ireland shorts....

Just an expression. don't take it to literally. Most of us Caucasians have white arses.

When you're explaining, you're losing.

[johng]

I'll take it from you that Jordi's arse is white. And please, do not submit any evidence.

It is in a pair of Ireland shorts....

Just an expression. don't take it to literally. Most of us Caucasians have white arses.

When you're explaining, you're losing.

Or..... If you have to explain it it's not funny, and it never will be.

[olaf the fat]

Just like Caucasians arses - not that funny

This thread is going way off course lads - think rugby!

This gives an ideal opportunity for new or fresh caps. Although with the Aussies are on the horizon and with sick bay is so full, it might be wise to let likely combinations get more experience together

[TerenureJim]

Just like Caucasians arses - not that funny

This thread is going way off course lads - think rugby!

Surely as we're discussing a match against a Caucasus Country it's the most suitable time to mention Caucasian arses.

[artaneboy]

Just like Caucasians arses - not that funny

This thread is going way off course lads - think rugby!

This gives an ideal opportunity for new or fresh caps. Although with the Aussies are on the horizon and with sick bay is so full, it might be wise to let likely combinations get more experience together

Eh, Georgia is in the Caucasus, so- ..... never mind

Change the forwards wholesale; leave the backs intact- largely. I'd rest Payne and bring D'Arcy back to 12, switching Henshaw to 13. Reason? Payne's sore foot needs a week; D'Arcy's enduring class; Henshaw's best position.

[olaf the fat]

Yeah and Ireland are playing - but Jordi Murphy "white arse" has nothing to do with this game either!

Remember think Rugby not arses - unless thats your thing, then by all means work away

[paddyor]

5 Myths about Georgian rugby(you can expect George Hook to talk about on Sunday)

http://tier2rugby.blogspot.nl/2014/01/4-myths-about-georgian-rugby.html

Interesting points are that the scrum isn't all that powerful despite having so many props in the T14. Mind they probably don't train much together. They tend to keep ball in hand and aren't inclined to kick. Author argues they aren't as far off Italy as some think. IIRC the last time we sent a team to face them it was an uncapped B team. how did it go?
From the same site got this list of tier 2 players playing in Europe

Georgia (44)
Karlen Asieshvili Loosehead Prop 21/04/1987 Brive
Davit Dadunashvili Loosehead Prop 27/01/1982 Massy
Vasil Kakovin Loosehead Prop 01/12/1989 Toulouse
Davit Khinchagishvili Loosehead Prop 24/07/1982 Racing Métro
Mikheil Nariashvili Loosehead Prop 25/05/1990 Montpellier
Val Rapava Loosehead Prop 12/10/1992 Worcester
Goderzi Shvelidze Loosehead Prop 17/04/1978 Brive
Giorgi Tetrashvili Loosehead Prop 01/08/1993 Agen
Zurab Zhvania Loosehead Prop 23/09/1991 Stade Français
Shalva Mamukashvili Hooker 02/10/1988 Sale
Vakhtang Akhobadze Tighthead Prop 07/05/1993 Massy
Davit Ashvetia Tighthead Prop 16/05/1975 Massy
Gagi Bazadze Tighthead Prop 12/09/1992 Montpellier
Levan Chilachava Tighthead Prop 17/08/1991 Toulon
Giorgi Jgenti Tighthead Prop 13/11/1985 Bayonne
Lekso Kaulashvili Tighthead Prop 27/08/1992 La Rochelle
Nikoloz Khatiashvili Tighthead Prop 22/05/1992 Aurillac
Kakhaber Koberidze Tighthead Prop 15/04/1985 Tarbes
Davit Kubriashvili Tighthead Prop 12/03/1986 Stade Français
Elizbar Kuparadze Tighthead Prop 02/04/1984 Massy
Giorgi Mchedlishvili Tighthead Prop 31/10/1986 Perpignan
Irakli Mirtskhulava Tighthead Prop 22/12/1988 Tarbes
Giorgi Natsarashvili Tighthead Prop 01/04/1985 Pau
Zaza Navrozashvili Tighthead Prop 27/07/1992 Bordeaux-Bègles
Anton Peikrishvili Tighthead Prop 18/09/1987 Brive
Tato Ratianidze Tighthead Prop 05/01/1978 Agen
Giorgi Sharashidze Tighthead Prop 07/07/1993 Clermont
Beka Sheklashvili Tighthead Prop 06/07/1986 Albi
Giorgi Vepkhvadze Tighthead Prop 05/07/1991 Oyonnax
Davit Zirakashvili Tighthead Prop 10/10/1983 Clermont
Levan Datunashvili Lock 18/01/1983 Aurillac
Besiki Gogoladze Lock 29/08/1996 Tarbes
Vakhtang Maisuradze Lock 11/03/1987 Albi
Kote Mikautadze Lock 01/07/1991 Toulon
Giorgi Nemsadze Lock 26/09/1984 Tarbes
Dimitri Basilaia Back Row 27/11/1985 Perpignan
Khvicha Bujiashvili Back Row 15/04/1992 Albi
Beka Gorgadze Back Row 08/02/1996 Mont-de-Marsan
Mamuka Gorgodze Back Row 14/07/1984 Toulon
Vito Kolelishvili Back Row 09/10/1989 Clermont
Lasha Lomidze Back Row 30/06/1992 Montpellier
Shalva Sutiashvili Back Row 24/01/1984 Massy
Merab Sharikadze Centre 17/05/1993 Aurillac
Tamaz Mchedlidze Wing 17/03/1993 Agen

Alot of props

[All Blacks nil]

"So with the tight turnaround from Georgia to Australia there’ll be a few changes but there’ll be some continuity as well.”

Anyone trying to guess Joe's team for Georgia should take this quote into account.

[borders]

The whole team should be wrapped up and mollycoddled until the game against Australia. Give them whatever they want and look after them. Then play the Mulingar 15; or the Dundrum 15; or the Ballyfermot 15; or indeed the Mayo hurling team against Georgia, None of the key players should be risked and that is nigh on all of them. An injury to Sexton, Murray, Ross, POC or Henson would be one hell of a blow.

[ichabodscrane]

Surely if Copeland has been called up he'll get a game on Sunday. He's nowhere near the level of Heaslip but his physicality and yard making could be what is needed.

[simonokeeffe]

theres a second Gorgadze albeit an 18 year old one?
its like a Georgian team of Sean O'Briens

[Xanthippe]

An injury to Sexton, Murray, Ross, POC or Henson would be one hell of a blow.

While I agree with you that an injury to Henson would be a blow I reckon it would be more of a blow to Bath and to Henson himself than it would be to Ireland



And yes I did know it was a typo and that borders meant Henshaw

[Morf]

It's not tiddlywinks!

[borders]

Henshaw....!

[jezzer]

5 Myths about Georgian rugby(you can expect George Hook to talk about on Sunday)

http://tier2rugby.blogspot.nl/2014/01/4-myths-about-georgian-rugby.html

Interesting points are that the scrum isn't all that powerful despite having so many props in the T14. Mind they probably don't train much together. They tend to keep ball in hand and aren't inclined to kick. Author argues they aren't as far off Italy as some think. IIRC the last time we sent a team to face them it was an uncapped B team. how did it go?
From the same site got this list of tier 2 players playing in Europe

Georgia (44)
Karlen Asieshvili Loosehead Prop 21/04/1987 Brive
Davit Dadunashvili Loosehead Prop 27/01/1982 Massy
Vasil Kakovin Loosehead Prop 01/12/1989 Toulouse
Davit Khinchagishvili Loosehead Prop 24/07/1982 Racing Métro
Mikheil Nariashvili Loosehead Prop 25/05/1990 Montpellier
Val Rapava Loosehead Prop 12/10/1992 Worcester
Goderzi Shvelidze Loosehead Prop 17/04/1978 Brive
Giorgi Tetrashvili Loosehead Prop 01/08/1993 Agen
Zurab Zhvania Loosehead Prop 23/09/1991 Stade Français
Shalva Mamukashvili Hooker 02/10/1988 Sale
Vakhtang Akhobadze Tighthead Prop 07/05/1993 Massy
Davit Ashvetia Tighthead Prop 16/05/1975 Massy
Gagi Bazadze Tighthead Prop 12/09/1992 Montpellier
Levan Chilachava Tighthead Prop 17/08/1991 Toulon
Giorgi Jgenti Tighthead Prop 13/11/1985 Bayonne
Lekso Kaulashvili Tighthead Prop 27/08/1992 La Rochelle
Nikoloz Khatiashvili Tighthead Prop 22/05/1992 Aurillac
Kakhaber Koberidze Tighthead Prop 15/04/1985 Tarbes
Davit Kubriashvili Tighthead Prop 12/03/1986 Stade Français
Elizbar Kuparadze Tighthead Prop 02/04/1984 Massy
Giorgi Mchedlishvili Tighthead Prop 31/10/1986 Perpignan
Irakli Mirtskhulava Tighthead Prop 22/12/1988 Tarbes
Giorgi Natsarashvili Tighthead Prop 01/04/1985 Pau
Zaza Navrozashvili Tighthead Prop 27/07/1992 Bordeaux-Bègles
Anton Peikrishvili Tighthead Prop 18/09/1987 Brive
Tato Ratianidze Tighthead Prop 05/01/1978 Agen
Giorgi Sharashidze Tighthead Prop 07/07/1993 Clermont
Beka Sheklashvili Tighthead Prop 06/07/1986 Albi
Giorgi Vepkhvadze Tighthead Prop 05/07/1991 Oyonnax
Davit Zirakashvili Tighthead Prop 10/10/1983 Clermont
Levan Datunashvili Lock 18/01/1983 Aurillac
Besiki Gogoladze Lock 29/08/1996 Tarbes
Vakhtang Maisuradze Lock 11/03/1987 Albi
Kote Mikautadze Lock 01/07/1991 Toulon
Giorgi Nemsadze Lock 26/09/1984 Tarbes
Dimitri Basilaia Back Row 27/11/1985 Perpignan
Khvicha Bujiashvili Back Row 15/04/1992 Albi
Beka Gorgadze Back Row 08/02/1996 Mont-de-Marsan
Mamuka Gorgodze Back Row 14/07/1984 Toulon
Vito Kolelishvili Back Row 09/10/1989 Clermont
Lasha Lomidze Back Row 30/06/1992 Montpellier
Shalva Sutiashvili Back Row 24/01/1984 Massy
Merab Sharikadze Centre 17/05/1993 Aurillac
Tamaz Mchedlidze Wing 17/03/1993 Agen

Alot of props

Think I only counted 2 not playing in France.

[rooster]

The whole team should be wrapped up and mollycoddled until the game against Australia. Give them whatever they want and look after them. Then play the Mulingar 15; or the Dundrum 15; or the Ballyfermot 15; or indeed the Mayo hurling team against Georgia, None of the key players should be risked and that is nigh on all of them. An injury to Sexton, Murray, Ross, POC or Henson would be one hell of a blow.

Vast majority of this weekend's team will not have played last weekend and won't play against Australia either

[hugonaut]

Surely if Copeland has been called up he'll get a game on Sunday. He's nowhere near the level of Heaslip but his physicality and yard making could be what is needed.

It's also the most obvious position on the team-sheet where we don't have sufficient depth behind Heaslip. At No6, there's O'Mahony, Ruddock and possibly Henderson [though he is more likely to feature in the row in the future]; at No7 there's O'Brien, Henry, Murphy and O'Donnell; and at No8 there's Heaslip and then a long way behind there's Jordi Murphy, who's currently injured.

No8 at test level is a big man's game – think of the size of Vermeulen, Vulipola, Parisse, Picamoles, and Read – and at 196cm and 112kg Copeland has a really significant size advantage over Jordi Murphy [188cm and 106kg]

It's a selection that is crying out to be made, if you ask me. Copeland was Player of the Tournament for Emerging Ireland in Rumania this summer, and in my opinion it's important to try and reward that form. He hasn't had as much a crack this season thus far with Munster due to the presence of Stander, but this is the sort of fixture where one would hope that a guy of his limited international experience but real potential could get a good run-out.