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New Euro competition

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http://www.espn.co.uk/italy/rugby/story/220945.html

Seems the log jam might be fixed tomorrow.
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"They either agree to the new competitions by Thursday or they are out. It's as simple as that."
Seems the PRL have picked up a few tips from the ERC :)

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Well they stand to lose most out if they dont sign up more than any other. Can't understand why they are f%~king around.
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Did the Italians really think the could stand in the way of this going ahead?
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A source?

More ultimatums coming with short deadlines and threats.

After all the shyte over England threatening to leave, it's all going to change over another 6N partner. That doesn't sound like a quote from someone who isn't PRL.
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The final stumbling block is the unfair distribution of competition funds. The Celtic Nations have agreed to share the guaranteed €20m as follows:

IRFU €5.1m
WRU €5.1m
SRU €5.1m
FIR €4.7m

So basically, instead of splitting the money four ways €5m each) the Pro12 wants to each get 100k extra out of the Italians share, which really seems pedantic and arbatory at this point, for an extra 100k each? Just give them their fair share ffs. Especially now that they are equal members of the Pro12 and have equal representation on the board, just get it signed.

Ideally though, it would be done on a team basis. So each Pro12 team gets €1.666 million each, meaning the IRFU get €6.6666m, the Welsh get €6.6666m and the Scottish and Italian teams get €3.3333 each, as after all, the Irish and Welsh are contributing and finding two additional professional teams, so simply splitting it 4 ways doesn't accurately reflect the expense each union endures to make the competition happen. So in that regard, the Scottish and Italians are both doing very well.
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for just an extra 100k a year you can keep your best outhalf in your own country...
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simonokeeffe wrote:for just an extra 100k a year you can keep your best outhalf in your own country...
For another 100k a year I'll come out of retirement.
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Arguably Italy and Scotland need the funding more, development of the game and all that.
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offshorerules wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:for just an extra 100k a year you can keep your best outhalf in your own country...
For another 100k a year I'll come out of retirement.
For an extra 100k a year I'll promise to stay retired.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/26966025

Potential change of the guard at the WRFU?...............or maybe not
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offshorerules wrote:
simonokeeffe wrote:for just an extra 100k a year you can keep your best outhalf in your own country...
For another 100k a year I'll come out of retirement.
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tigerburnie wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/26966025

Potential change of the guard at the WRFU?...............or maybe not

he's got no chance, upset too many people during his last tenure
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olaf the fat wrote:Arguably Italy and Scotland need the funding more, development of the game and all that.
I was all or giving them a helping hand but it looks as though the Scots broke rank and sold out to BT, hense the sponsorship on their jerseys.

The Italians should really be getting equal. It just goes to show how rocky the Pro 12 partnership is if they're trying to do one another out of small amounts of money.
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[Jackass] wrote:The final stumbling block is the unfair distribution of competition funds. The Celtic Nations have agreed to share the guaranteed €20m as follows:

IRFU €5.1m
WRU €5.1m
SRU €5.1m
FIR €4.7m

So basically, instead of splitting the money four ways €5m each) the Pro12 wants to each get 100k extra out of the Italians share, which really seems pedantic and arbatory at this point, for an extra 100k each? Just give them their fair share ffs. Especially now that they are equal members of the Pro12 and have equal representation on the board, just get it signed.

Ideally though, it would be done on a team basis. So each Pro12 team gets €1.666 million each, meaning the IRFU get €6.6666m, the Welsh get €6.6666m and the Scottish and Italian teams get €3.3333 each, as after all, the Irish and Welsh are contributing and finding two additional professional teams, so simply splitting it 4 ways doesn't accurately reflect the expense each union endures to make the competition happen. So in that regard, the Scottish and Italians are both doing very well.
What's fair about it? They are lucky to get what they have. They've been in the tournament and have brought pretty much nothing to the competition bar providing an unbalanced and unfair advantage for teams lucky enough to be in their group!
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Flash Gordon wrote:
[Jackass] wrote:The final stumbling block is the unfair distribution of competition funds. The Celtic Nations have agreed to share the guaranteed €20m as follows:

IRFU €5.1m
WRU €5.1m
SRU €5.1m
FIR €4.7m

So basically, instead of splitting the money four ways €5m each) the Pro12 wants to each get 100k extra out of the Italians share, which really seems pedantic and arbatory at this point, for an extra 100k each? Just give them their fair share ffs. Especially now that they are equal members of the Pro12 and have equal representation on the board, just get it signed.

Ideally though, it would be done on a team basis. So each Pro12 team gets €1.666 million each, meaning the IRFU get €6.6666m, the Welsh get €6.6666m and the Scottish and Italian teams get €3.3333 each, as after all, the Irish and Welsh are contributing and finding two additional professional teams, so simply splitting it 4 ways doesn't accurately reflect the expense each union endures to make the competition happen. So in that regard, the Scottish and Italians are both doing very well.
What's fair about it? They are lucky to get what they have. They've been in the tournament and have brought pretty much nothing to the competition bar providing an unbalanced and unfair advantage for teams lucky enough to be in their group!
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So does this mean that the French and English get €20million each?
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One thing I've not seen mentioned yet is will it be 5 groups of 4 with the 5 group winners and 3 best runners-up going through to the quarter finals? I guess there are not enough weekends for 4 groups of 5 with the top 2 in each group going through.
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nc6000 wrote:One thing I've not seen mentioned yet is will it be 5 groups of 4 with the 5 group winners and 3 best runners-up going through to the quarter finals?
Yes, according to the link 5 posts up.
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