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editSionnach wrote:I'd go a bit further and say that Kimmage is seeing PEDs in rugby as a way to make a few quid for himself.RoboProp wrote:My two cents, Kimmage sees PEDs in rugby as his new bête noire
Well, he is onto something. 15 of the 46 athletes serving doping bans in the UK are rugby players.Sionnach wrote:I'd go a bit further and say that Kimmage is seeing PEDs in rugby as a way to make a few quid for himself.RoboProp wrote:My two cents, Kimmage sees PEDs in rugby as his new bête noire
Looking at the list, they are all for PEDs.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
I think you're missing the pointthe spoofer wrote:Looking at the list, they are all for PEDs.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ons/search
Actually 2 of them tested positive for Benzoylecgonine -Cocainethe spoofer wrote:Looking at the list, they are all for PEDs.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ons/search
Benzoylecgonine is the main metabolite of cocaine. It is used in Drug Screening Test. Many factors determine how quickly it gets cleared from the body.
It is also used medically as a topical analgesic and muscle relaxant, as in prescription drug Esterom, which is used for myalgia.
When a person takes cocaine (chemically benzoylmethylecgonine), it gets metabolized in the liver to form benzoylecgonine. The metabolite is then excreted out of the body via urine.
The presence of this metabolite is almost a certain indication that a person has consumed the drug.
Without going through them all, 2 were got for Possession of prohibited substances and Trafficking (8 years each). Presumably they had clients if they were trafficking.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
Does the report say if they're Union or League players? Or does it just say rugby. League players have more roided physiquesjaneymac08 wrote:Without going through them all, 2 were got for Possession of prohibited substances and Trafficking (8 years each). Presumably they had clients if they were trafficking.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
The Drugs they were peddling were:
1) Androst-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione (ATD), Androstenedione, Drostanolone, Mestanolone, n/a, Stanozolol
2) Anabolic Agents
Other bans were for:
3) 19-norandrosterone, Oxandrolone
4) Human Growth Hormone (hGH)
That's the spirit RP, we're bad but there're worse!!RoboProp wrote:Does the report say if they're Union or League players? Or does it just say rugby. League players have more roided physiquesjaneymac08 wrote:Without going through them all, 2 were got for Possession of prohibited substances and Trafficking (8 years each). Presumably they had clients if they were trafficking.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
The Drugs they were peddling were:
1) Androst-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione (ATD), Androstenedione, Drostanolone, Mestanolone, n/a, Stanozolol
2) Anabolic Agents
Other bans were for:
3) 19-norandrosterone, Oxandrolone
4) Human Growth Hormone (hGH)
It does (by way of stating who the governing body is).RoboProp wrote:Does the report say if they're Union or League players? Or does it just say rugby. League players have more roided physiquesjaneymac08 wrote:Without going through them all, 2 were got for Possession of prohibited substances and Trafficking (8 years each). Presumably they had clients if they were trafficking.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
The Drugs they were peddling were:
1) Androst-1,4,6-triene-3,17-dione (ATD), Androstenedione, Drostanolone, Mestanolone, n/a, Stanozolol
2) Anabolic Agents
Other bans were for:
3) 19-norandrosterone, Oxandrolone
4) Human Growth Hormone (hGH)
You learn something new every day. I assumed that was a steroid of some type.paddyor wrote:Actually 2 of them tested positive for Benzoylecgonine -Cocainethe spoofer wrote:Looking at the list, they are all for PEDs.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ons/search
Benzoylecgonine is the main metabolite of cocaine. It is used in Drug Screening Test. Many factors determine how quickly it gets cleared from the body.
It is also used medically as a topical analgesic and muscle relaxant, as in prescription drug Esterom, which is used for myalgia.
When a person takes cocaine (chemically benzoylmethylecgonine), it gets metabolized in the liver to form benzoylecgonine. The metabolite is then excreted out of the body via urine.
The presence of this metabolite is almost a certain indication that a person has consumed the drug.
Yep. Two are professionals, and one of those was for a recreational drugPeg Leg wrote:I think you're missing the pointthe spoofer wrote:Looking at the list, they are all for PEDs.Dave Cahill wrote:How many are professional rugby players found guilty with PEDs (as opposed to recreationals)?
http://www.ukad.org.uk/anti-doping-rule ... ons/search
Probably systemic recreational use!Dave Cahill wrote:
Yep. Two are professionals, and one of those was for a recreational drug
Put down the shaker and step away Creatine LRIP, you're a danger to yourself and society!LeRouxIsPHat wrote:I think we're all assuming that Kimmage was initially referring to systematic doping given his history with the cycling stuff. The more it becomes clear that that wasn't the case the more I can see him rowing back and saying that's not what he meant and talking more about the dangers with schools' players and rogue cases, the pressure of having to get bigger etc
His whole approach to this has just reeked of bullshit and makes him sound like a mad man.
Ethics aside LRIP, it's unsightly to watch a grown man trying to stuff segments of orange up his arse on the sideline.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Look Peg Leg, I don't care how wrong you think it is, I'll continue to enjoy my oranges at half time and get that delicious hit of vitamin C. It makes me feel bulletproof and I don't care if that isn't sport to you!!
Peg Leg wrote:Ethics aside LRIP, it's unsightly to watch a grown man trying to stuff segments of orange up his arse on the sideline.LeRouxIsPHat wrote:Look Peg Leg, I don't care how wrong you think it is, I'll continue to enjoy my oranges at half time and get that delicious hit of vitamin C. It makes me feel bulletproof and I don't care if that isn't sport to you!!
