Munster, The Money Pit Province 2019/2020

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You might expect that from HC newbies but Munster are HC royalty.

Gotta play smart. They need a result in Paris.

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ronk wrote:You might expect that from HC newbies but Munster are HC royalty.

Gotta play smart. They need a result in Paris.
Really? Pushin it there Ronk.
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They're not the force they once were but they have a long history of getting out of their group most years.

Saracens and Toulon don't have that heritage even if they have titles. And they have enough experience that they shouldnt be making mistakes like that.

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ronk wrote:They're not the force they once were but they have a long history of getting out of their group most years.
That makes them bridesmaids, not royalty.
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I suppose Saracens turned down a kickable penalty with 30 seconds left and no hope of a bonus point.

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Apart from what you might call cameos from Tyler, Joey and Johnny Holland, so few in number, have they been, we haven't had a quality 10 since ROG. So the guts of 10 years. If we had we'd possibly have won the HC a couple of more times. People forget how close we came in semis in France 5 or 6 years ago. The missed dg against Racing, the missed penalty today are typical of what's been happening year in year out for us. I don't know why the relatively easy kick to secure a losing bonus point was spurned today but if it was because JJ didn't fancy it or because he wasn't fancied for it then he needs to go. We persisted far too long with IK, hoping he'd develop and it never really happened. If JJ isn't good enough by now then he never will be.
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He's 3rd choice outhalf, the 2 ahead of him are injured.

That kick was in his range, it was just the wrong call.

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EPCR has decided to investigate incidents which occurred during the second half of the Heineken Champions Cup, Round 4 match between Saracens and Munster Rugby at Allianz Park yesterday (Saturday, 14 December).
Information will now be sought from the match officials and from both clubs, and EPCR will be making no further comment until the investigation has been completed.
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blockhead wrote:
EPCR has decided to investigate incidents which occurred during the second half of the Heineken Champions Cup, Round 4 match between Saracens and Munster Rugby at Allianz Park yesterday (Saturday, 14 December).
Information will now be sought from the match officials and from both clubs, and EPCR will be making no further comment until the investigation has been completed.
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blockhead wrote:
EPCR has decided to investigate incidents which occurred during the second half of the Heineken Champions Cup, Round 4 match between Saracens and Munster Rugby at Allianz Park yesterday (Saturday, 14 December).
Information will now be sought from the match officials and from both clubs, and EPCR will be making no further comment until the investigation has been completed.
Fat-C*nt Gate.
Nothing like a bit of righteous indignation.
Your honour could I suggest that the fa. eh f^ckin c*"t get his hearing rested.
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tomthefan wrote:Apart from what you might call cameos from Tyler, Joey and Johnny Holland, so few in number, have they been, we haven't had a quality 10 since ROG. So the guts of 10 years. If we had we'd possibly have won the HC a couple of more times. People forget how close we came in semis in France 5 or 6 years ago. The missed dg against Racing, the missed penalty today are typical of what's been happening year in year out for us. I don't know why the relatively easy kick to secure a losing bonus point was spurned today but if it was because JJ didn't fancy it or because he wasn't fancied for it then he needs to go. We persisted far too long with IK, hoping he'd develop and it never really happened. If JJ isn't good enough by now then he never will be.
Actually you have.

But he's currently starting 10 in Europe for Connacht.
He's gotten awfully fond of that brick

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blockhead wrote:Crazy, crazy call not to take pen and secure a lbp with time left still to go again. Could be a low pts total gets a qf spot this season. Beirne's injury looks really bad.
If Munster had taken that pen and scored and the game had finished 15-9, Munster would be leading on the Head-to-Head (scored 19pts to Sarries 18pts (Match points)). Could be a very costly error.
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Oldschool wrote:
blockhead wrote:
EPCR has decided to investigate incidents which occurred during the second half of the Heineken Champions Cup, Round 4 match between Saracens and Munster Rugby at Allianz Park yesterday (Saturday, 14 December).
Information will now be sought from the match officials and from both clubs, and EPCR will be making no further comment until the investigation has been completed.
Fat-C*nt Gate.
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Your honour could I suggest that the fa. eh f^ckin c*"t get his hearing rested.
Given that the remark came after George kicked the ball into a munster player on the floor, he definitely deserved it.
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Of course as we know calling English hookers fat c**ts is part of Munster's traditional values.

Isn't that right Jerry?

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wixfjord wrote:Of course as we know calling English hookers fat c**ts is part of Munster's traditional values.

Isn't that right Jerry?
Well the English lads were always calling him "Pikey" so, he had to have some comeback.
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BOD selling the last bit of his soul to BT by calling for the medic to be punished.
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FLIP wrote:BOD selling the last bit of his soul to BT by calling for the medic to be punished.
BOD said
“When it happens from management, particularly from medics, a very important position of power, to abuse a player and to use some pretty unsavoury phraseology; we certainly don’t want that in our game, and I’m not shocked to hear that the EPCR have decided to investigate that a little bit more.”
Sounds fair enough tbh.
Let them investigate, will come to nought I'd imagine.
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FLIP wrote:BOD selling the last bit of his soul to BT by calling for the medic to be punished.
BOD should have his own podcast to help pay for his new house. He could call it The Rugby BOD.
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tomthefan wrote:
FLIP wrote:BOD selling the last bit of his soul to BT by calling for the medic to be punished.
BOD should have his own podcast to help pay for his new house. He could call it The Rugby BOD.
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It could pay for the gardening in the new pad at least: helluva bush.

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blockhead wrote:
FLIP wrote:BOD selling the last bit of his soul to BT by calling for the medic to be punished.
BOD said
“When it happens from management, particularly from medics, a very important position of power, to abuse a player and to use some pretty unsavoury phraseology; we certainly don’t want that in our game, and I’m not shocked to hear that the EPCR have decided to investigate that a little bit more.”
Sounds fair enough tbh.
Let them investigate, will come to nought I'd imagine.
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You could argue that, particularly with players, sledging and "verbals" are part of their role to ensure that they are trying to achieve the primary goal (winning). Hence, lippy scrumhalves, hookers giving stick when scrummaging and fans shouting to disrupt a lineout call.

That is how the medic misbehaved and why an investigation may be justified.

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