Corona Virus

[Peg Leg]

We either trust the 80/20 risk split and keep the 20% locked up and tell them that's the plan and/or sort out our testing or sh1t is going to happen and we risk losing the advantage we've gained.
The financial and mental pressures on people are building up and something positive has to be done about it.
The word indefinitely is not an option.

Testing is there purely to inform the government as to effectiveness of their countermeasures. That is it.

Testing has value for people whether they test positive or negative and it has a major impact on the people they care for or who care for them.

Apologies for the insensitivity you are correct, a major impact.

[JB1973]

Can anyone explain why other nations are going down the same testing and tracing route that has been so successful in s korea and Germany ?

why are we not all just following that lead?

[domhnallj]

Can anyone explain why other nations are going down the same testing and tracing route that has been so successful in s korea and Germany ?

why are we not all just following that lead?

I presume you mean why is everyone not following the Korean and German example? In Ireland its because we appear to lack the testing kits and the the physical capacity to turn around tests and get results out. There is a backlog which is being cleared now, in part using German labs so I think we should be up to date in a week. In the UK who knows? The government keep saying that testing will be ramped up to German levels and then not meeting the target by a mile. So it could just be because they are incompetent or they are unofficially sticking with the so-called 'herd immunity' strategy.

[RoboProp]

Got a text to say I tested negative for Covid, then a phonecall 2 days later to say it was negative. Which I thought was odd, as at the test centre they said they'd only ring me if it was a positive result. Happy my test is negative, but I fear it could be wrong. I had several of the symptoms lasting 2 weeks, also I'm rarely ill. When I was tested I was feeling better and my results were nearly 3 weeks in coming back. For my peace of mind, I'd like a blood test to see if I did have it, but realistically it's small potatoes with all that's happening.
Peggy glad to hear your wife is improving.

[FLIP]

Got a text to say I tested negative for Covid, then a phonecall 2 days later to say it was negative. Which I thought was odd, as at the test centre they said they'd only ring me if it was a positive result. Happy my test is negative, but I fear it could be wrong. I had several of the symptoms lasting 2 weeks, also I'm rarely ill. When I was tested I was feeling better and my results were nearly 3 weeks in coming back. For my peace of mind, I'd like a blood test to see if I did have it, but realistically it's small potatoes with all that's happening.
Peggy glad to hear your wife is improving.

I had a bad dose of flu in January that if I had it now I'd have no doubt I had coronavirus. But the timing was all wrong. Maybe you had the same thing?

[Oldschool]

Trump has been a very mixed bag on COVID 19 but he's dead right to pull funding on WHO.

[bertlim]

Trump has been a very mixed bag on COVID 19 but he's dead right to pull funding on WHO.

Why?

[Logorrhea]

Because China.

[Oldschool]

Trump has been a very mixed bag on COVID 19 but he's dead right to pull funding on WHO.

Why?

Because he's not alone.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory ... s-70135427

[heno]

I wonder had trump asked himself these questions
A) what is a wet market?
B) do all wet markets sell live animals?
C) do all wet markets sell live wild animals?
D) do all wet markets butcher animals in front of you?
E) how many people in the world rely on wild meat as part of their protein intake?
F) why?
G) do all wild animals being traded end up in wet markets?
H) do all wild animals being traded end up in the food chain?
I) whats easier to target, a wet market which is easier to see or the trade in wild animals which is not so easy to see?

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[Oldschool]

For your immune system health.
Vitamin D3
Beans and/or Bananas.
Yogurts
Probiotics

[Oldschool]

I wonder had trump asked himself these questions
A) what is a wet market?
B) do all wet markets sell live animals?
C) do all wet markets sell live wild animals?
D) do all wet markets butcher animals in front of you?
E) how many people in the world rely on wild meat as part of their protein intake?
F) why?
G) do all wild animals being traded end up in wet markets?
H) do all wild animals being traded end up in the food chain?
I) whats easier to target, a wet market which is easier to see or the trade in wild animals which is not so easy to see?

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Maybe when you're finished asking yourself questions you'll actually come to a conclusion.
And don't forget to ask yourself about the origins of SARS and COVID19 (if you don't know the answer then there's a problem.......)
BTW a few more questions for you to consider.
Did the AustralianPM ask himself?
A) What is a wet market.
B)
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While I'm at it.
Did the WHO ask
A) What is a wet market.
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And don't forget to ask yourself.
A) What is a wet market
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[Hippo]

Trump has been a very mixed bag on COVID 19 but he's dead right to pull funding on WHO.

To describe this lunatic as being a 'mixed bag' on the pandemic is extraordinarily charitable. Furthermore the WHO provides essential assistance to developing countries where public health is as underfunded as in, for instance, the USA.

His sole reason for withdrawing funding is, as usual, to distract from his own abysmal failures. It's an enormous surprise to see the xenophobic Australian government jump on board as well, truly shocking.

[paddyor]

Trump tells people he's the only one who can help while disowning any of the consequences of the Virus, so you see it's a mixed bag.

[paddyor]

I wonder had trump asked himself these questions
A) what is a wet market?
B) do all wet markets sell live animals?
C) do all wet markets sell live wild animals?
D) do all wet markets butcher animals in front of you?
E) how many people in the world rely on wild meat as part of their protein intake?
F) why?
G) do all wild animals being traded end up in wet markets?
H) do all wild animals being traded end up in the food chain?
I) whats easier to target, a wet market which is easier to see or the trade in wild animals which is not so easy to see?

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Seems increasingly likely it's escaped from a lab and not at all related to the wet market.

[The Doc]

I wonder had trump asked himself these questions
A) what is a wet market?
B) do all wet markets sell live animals?
C) do all wet markets sell live wild animals?
D) do all wet markets butcher animals in front of you?
E) how many people in the world rely on wild meat as part of their protein intake?
F) why?
G) do all wild animals being traded end up in wet markets?
H) do all wild animals being traded end up in the food chain?
I) whats easier to target, a wet market which is easier to see or the trade in wild animals which is not so easy to see?

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Seems increasingly likely it's escaped from a lab and not at all related to the wet market.

Not what the report states. It was being investigated in the lab and there is the possibility of inadequate safeguards. But the origin of the virus through various species has been worked out - it originates in animals and is not man made.

"Wet market" is a bit broad - if you go to a fruit and veg market, that is a wet market. The issue is livestock markets.

[FLIP]

"Wet market" is a bit broad - if you go to a fruit and veg market, that is a wet market. The issue is livestock markets.

It's not just livestock markets though, but those peddling in what could be termed exotic and hunted meats instead of standard farmed meat raised to follow standards.

[Oldschool]

Trump has been a very mixed bag on COVID 19 but he's dead right to pull funding on WHO.

To describe this lunatic as being a 'mixed bag' on the pandemic is extraordinarily charitable. Furthermore the WHO provides essential assistance to developing countries where public health is as underfunded as in, for instance, the USA.

His sole reason for withdrawing funding is, as usual, to distract from his own abysmal failures. It's an enormous surprise to see the xenophobic Australian government jump on board as well, truly shocking.

WHO surely have a similar opinion of Mr Trump to your own.
WHO were warned that Trump was thinking about withdrawing their funding.
Given Trump's volatility do you think it was wise of them to risk losing that funding and effectively hurt the developing just to approve China's reopening of the "wet markets"
WHO shoot selves in foot shocker.
As for underfunded health services here's looking elsewhere.
It's a fair comment to say that the overriding strategy in dealing with COVID19 has been isolation not a good health system.
Trumpanoia is amazingly tunnel visioned.
Was listening to a guy on British TV freaking about Trump.
Everything he was accusing Trump of, the British the have under achieved on despite the NHS which is good plated compared to the HSE.
In particular he was ranting about the number of cases and deaths. This just as the news is breaking that there are some counting issues in regards to deaths.
UK isn't doing as well as the US on a per capita basic in terms of deaths for example. Total deaths 12k v 31k - you can work the per capita yourself.
BTW I would give the credit for the fight against CV to the governor's less so Trump but Trump all bad, nah
As for the Australian distrust of China, it just goes to show they're more clued in than some.

[The Doc]

"Wet market" is a bit broad - if you go to a fruit and veg market, that is a wet market. The issue is livestock markets.

It's not just livestock markets though, but those peddling in what could be termed exotic and hunted meats instead of standard farmed meat raised to follow standards.

I know the problem - my point is that people use the term "wet market" meaning meat. Wet market is a term to differentiate from Supermarkets with packaged goods or other non-perishable markets such as electrical markets. A wet market includes a flower market or a fruit and veg market.

If people mean livestock or meat markets they should be specific

[Hippo]

WHO surely have a similar opinion of Mr Trump to your own.
WHO were warned that Trump was thinking about withdrawing their funding.
Given Trump's volatility do you think it was wise of them to risk losing that funding and effectively hurt the developing just to approve China's reopening of the "wet markets"
WHO shoot selves in foot shocker.
As for underfunded health services here's looking elsewhere.
It's a fair comment to say that the overriding strategy in dealing with COVID19 has been isolation not a good health system.
Trumpanoia is amazingly tunnel visioned.
Was listening to a guy on British TV freaking about Trump.
Everything he was accusing Trump of, the British the have under achieved on despite the NHS which is good plated compared to the HSE.
In particular he was ranting about the number of cases and deaths. This just as the news is breaking that there are some counting issues in regards to deaths.
UK isn't doing as well as the US on a per capita basic in terms of deaths for example. Total deaths 12k v 31k - you can work the per capita yourself.
BTW I would give the credit for the fight against CV to the governor's less so Trump but Trump all bad, nah
As for the Australian distrust of China, it just goes to show they're more clued in than some.

There's so much here, so much. But I really haven't the energy. Carry on.