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Re: Age Grade Interpros

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Leinster u18 Squad:

15. Shane Walshe (Navan RFC)
14. Ben McEntagart (Navan RFC)
13. Peter Howard (Cill Dara RFC)
12. Conor Nash (Navan RFC)
11. Chris Maloney (Birr RFC)
10. Ciaran Frawley (Skerries RFC)
9. Darragh Sweeney (Malahide RFC)
1. Greg McGrath (Wexford RFC)
2. Ben Devlin (Kilkenny RFC)
3. Jack Aungier (Suttonians RFC)
4. Joe Carley (Enniscorthy RFC)
5. Jack Regan (Birr RFC)
6. Conor Hand (Navan RFC)
7. Conor Farrell (Navan RFC) CAPTAIN
8. Paul Boyle (Gorey RFC)

Replacements;

16. Conor Maguire (Boyne RFC)
17. Eoin Corcoran (Longford RFC)
18. Stephen McGivern (Dundalk RFC)
19. Sean Masterson (Portlaoise RFC)
20. Ruadhan McDonnell (Longford RFC)
21. Niall O'Neill (Naas RFC)
22. Sean O'Brien (Mullingar RFC)
23. Christian Byrne (Navan RFC)

Walshe, Howard, Frawley, McGrath, Devlin, Carley, Regan, Hand and Farrell all were involved with last year's team.

Conor Nash is a very promising prospect, still under-17.
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irishrugbyua wrote:Leinster u18 Squad:

15. Shane Walshe (Navan RFC)
14. Ben McEntagart (Navan RFC)
13. Peter Howard (Cill Dara RFC)
12. Conor Nash (Navan RFC)
11. Chris Maloney (Birr RFC)
10. Ciaran Frawley (Skerries RFC)
9. Darragh Sweeney (Malahide RFC)
1. Greg McGrath (Wexford RFC)
2. Ben Devlin (Kilkenny RFC)
3. Jack Aungier (Suttonians RFC)
4. Joe Carley (Enniscorthy RFC)
5. Jack Regan (Birr RFC)
6. Conor Hand (Navan RFC)
7. Conor Farrell (Navan RFC) CAPTAIN
8. Paul Boyle (Gorey RFC)

Replacements;

16. Conor Maguire (Boyne RFC)
17. Eoin Corcoran (Longford RFC)
18. Stephen McGivern (Dundalk RFC)
19. Sean Masterson (Portlaoise RFC)
20. Ruadhan McDonnell (Longford RFC)
21. Niall O'Neill (Naas RFC)
22. Sean O'Brien (Mullingar RFC)
23. Christian Byrne (Navan RFC)

Walshe, Howard, Frawley, McGrath, Devlin, Carley, Regan, Hand and Farrell all were involved with last year's team.

Conor Nash is a very promising prospect, still under-17.
Ruadhan McDonnell is still U17 aswell, big skillfull 8/6.
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the spoofer wrote:
irishrugbyua wrote:Leinster u18 Squad:

15. Shane Walshe (Navan RFC)
14. Ben McEntagart (Navan RFC)
13. Peter Howard (Cill Dara RFC)
12. Conor Nash (Navan RFC)
11. Chris Maloney (Birr RFC)
10. Ciaran Frawley (Skerries RFC)
9. Darragh Sweeney (Malahide RFC)
1. Greg McGrath (Wexford RFC)
2. Ben Devlin (Kilkenny RFC)
3. Jack Aungier (Suttonians RFC)
4. Joe Carley (Enniscorthy RFC)
5. Jack Regan (Birr RFC)
6. Conor Hand (Navan RFC)
7. Conor Farrell (Navan RFC) CAPTAIN
8. Paul Boyle (Gorey RFC)

Replacements;

16. Conor Maguire (Boyne RFC)
17. Eoin Corcoran (Longford RFC)
18. Stephen McGivern (Dundalk RFC)
19. Sean Masterson (Portlaoise RFC)
20. Ruadhan McDonnell (Longford RFC)
21. Niall O'Neill (Naas RFC)
22. Sean O'Brien (Mullingar RFC)
23. Christian Byrne (Navan RFC)

Walshe, Howard, Frawley, McGrath, Devlin, Carley, Regan, Hand and Farrell all were involved with last year's team.

Conor Nash is a very promising prospect, still under-17.
Ruadhan McDonnell is still U17 aswell, big skillfull 8/6.
Wouldn't know as much about McDonnell as I do Nash.
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Leinster Squad:

15. Barry Goulding (Gonzaga College S.J.)
14. Tim Carroll (Cistercian College Roscrea)
13. Jack Kelly (St. Michael's College)
12. Tim Foley (Cistercian College Roscrea) CAPTAIN
11. Jordan Larmour (St. Andrew's College)
10. Conor Dean (Blackrock College)
9. David Duggan (St. Michael's College)

1. Rory Mulvihill (St. Michael's College)
2. Conor Johnson (Newbridge College)
3. Richard Mouatt (Blackrock College)
4. Oisin Dowling (St. Michael's College)
5. Brian Egan (Belvedere College S.J.)
6. Caelan Dorris (Blackrock College)
7. Tom De Jongh (Belvedere College S.J.)
8. Jonny Guy (St. Andrew's College)

Replacements;

16. Daniel McCaffrey (Belvedere College S.J.)
17. Gavin Murray (Castleknock College)
18. Emmet Burns (Blackrock College)
19. Barry Fitzpatrick (St. Michael's College)
20. Matthew Keane (Cistercian College Roscrea)
21. Hugh O'Sullivan (Belvedere College S.J.)
22. Conor Jennings (Belvedere College S.J.)
23. Alan Tynan (Cistercian College Roscrea)

Guy, Larmour, Foley, Duggan and Carroll were all involved with the u18's last year. Guy and Larmour not appearing for Leinster but get called up for Ireland after massive senior cup seasons.

Doris started last year for Blackrock as a 4th year.
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irishrugbyua wrote:Leinster Squad:

15. Barry Goulding (Gonzaga College S.J.)
14. Tim Carroll (Cistercian College Roscrea)
13. Jack Kelly (St. Michael's College)
12. Tim Foley (Cistercian College Roscrea) CAPTAIN
11. Jordan Larmour (St. Andrew's College)
10. Conor Dean (Blackrock College)
9. David Duggan (St. Michael's College)

1. Rory Mulvihill (St. Michael's College)
2. Conor Johnson (Newbridge College)
3. Richard Mouatt (Blackrock College)
4. Oisin Dowling (St. Michael's College)
5. Brian Egan (Belvedere College S.J.)
6. Caelan Dorris (Blackrock College)
7. Tom De Jongh (Belvedere College S.J.)
8. Jonny Guy (St. Andrew's College)

Replacements;

16. Daniel McCaffrey (Belvedere College S.J.)
17. Gavin Murray (Castleknock College)
18. Emmet Burns (Blackrock College)
19. Barry Fitzpatrick (St. Michael's College)
20. Matthew Keane (Cistercian College Roscrea)
21. Hugh O'Sullivan (Belvedere College S.J.)
22. Conor Jennings (Belvedere College S.J.)
23. Alan Tynan (Cistercian College Roscrea)

Guy, Larmour, Foley, Duggan and Carroll were all involved with the u18's last year. Guy and Larmour not appearing for Leinster but get called up for Ireland after massive senior cup seasons.

Doris started last year for Blackrock as a 4th year.
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Interestingly the head Coach Noel McNamara is also a Clongowes teacher and the coach of their SCT team.
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Clubs won 60-3.
Schools drew 17-17.
u19 won 40-13.
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U-20's beaten 15-10
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cormac wrote:U-20's beaten 15-10
a good game, pretty close-fought - Ulster were on top for the first quarter, then Leinster dominated the second quarter, and the second half was nip and tuck, with Ulster putting a lot of pressure on and scoring what turned out to be the winning try, and then living pretty dangerously until the final whistle, with Leinster huffing and puffing but just failing to land a knock-out blow..

In the first quarter, Leinster's main problem was midfield defence - Ulster made 2 or 3 clean breaks through the 10/12 channel, one of which led to a converted try, and another of which was butchered by O'Hagan who just had to pop to Arnold for another 7 pointer, but he threw a bad pass. In the second quarter, Leinster dominated possession, and scored a cracking try, a break down the right fed Carberry, who was tackled before the line, but offloaded beautifully to Leavy to dot down (I take it Leavy is related to Dan btw? He was sitting just beside me in the stand) The second half started scrappily enough, but Ulster turned the heat up, and the pack put a lot of pressure on the Leinster line, until finally playing with a pen advantage, Arnold bowled over for a second try. From then on most of the ball was Leinster's, but Ulster's defence was pretty stout, and despite having a lot of good field position, they never managed to manufacture a clear chance to win.

I was watching with an Ulster hat on, so can't give chapter and verse on the Leinster performance, but the half-backs stood out - Carberry controlled the game well I thought, but the star was Charlie Rock. He is tiny, but incredibly fast - he made 2 or 3 fantastic 70-80m breaks, beating defenders and on one occasion just stepping into touch before popping inside for a trailing winger to touch down. He reminds me of Paul Marshall, but without the brain farts (which is a very good thing!) - he also delivered a lot of good ball to runners coming off him from depth around the corner, clearly a Leinster tactic which gained a lot of yards even against a pretty good defence.

On the Ulster side, two of the classiest players on the pitch were Stockdale and Owens, 11 and 15 - definitely ones to look out for. Big strong lads, glide over the grass, throw in a few big hits - they didn't get as much ball as you'd have liked, but they always look dangerous.
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Some big talented centres coming through in Conor O'Brien, Conor Nash, Peter Howard and Jack Kelly.
Of course there is room for the little guy with Fergal Cleary and also some 2nd 5/8ths types in Matthew Gilsenan and Tim Foley.
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darkside lighteside wrote:I take it Leavy is related to Dan btw? He was sitting just beside me in the stands.
Yeah, they're brothers. Cheers for the feedback btw.
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cormac wrote:U-20's beaten 15-10
not really surprising, Ulster pretty much were at full strength minus Alex Thompson.

Leinster miles off that missing Josh Murphy, Oisin Heffernan, Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Harrison Brewer, Garry Ringrose and Billy Dardis.
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goreyguy wrote:
cormac wrote:U-20's beaten 15-10
not really surprising, Ulster pretty much were at full strength minus Alex Thompson.

Leinster miles off that missing Josh Murphy, Oisin Heffernan, Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Harrison Brewer, Garry Ringrose and Billy Dardis.
Not really missing if they were never there, eligible but not selected or considered.

Rock, Carberry, Loughman etc should be able to do a job. Wouldn't be overly excited the way the 20's have performed with Leinster. Seem to be coaching by numbers no flair or excitement, with all the talent available and a professional coaching structure that have had them full time since start of July I am dissapointed
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Armchair wrote:
goreyguy wrote: Leinster miles off that missing Josh Murphy, Oisin Heffernan, Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Harrison Brewer, Garry Ringrose and Billy Dardis.
Not really missing if they were never there, eligible but not selected or considered.

Rock, Carberry, Loughman etc should be able to do a job. Wouldn't be overly excited the way the 20's have performed with Leinster. Seem to be coaching by numbers no flair or excitement, with all the talent available and a professional coaching structure that have had them full time since start of July I am dissapointed
They're not selected because they all played for Ireland U20s as U19s or [in Brewer's case] are injured. They're all eligible to play this year, so they really are missing. To say otherwise is bizarre.
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They are missing there most talented players while Ulster have their most talented players available to them.
Leinster also started 3 under-19's in their team in Porter, Jones and O'Brien. Ulster had one in Arnold.
Carberry is a decent player and all but he didn't even start at 10 for Rock last year and when he was with the youths he played 9.
A full strength Leinster side would have looked something like this:
1. Loughman
2. McKenna
3. Heffernan
4. O'Connor
5. Dwan
6. Murphy
7. Oliver
8. Timoney
9. McCarthy
10. Byrne
11. O'Donoghue
12. Brewer
13. Ringrose
14. Power
15. Dardis

Ulster had 7 players from their academy playing(Lagan, Dow, Young, O'Hagan, Stockdale, Owens and Arnold)
Various Ulster fans at the game said that the 20s said:
"For the most part Leinster played all the Rugby"
and
"The boys from Leinster kept the ball alive very well and were snappy in the backs and had quick ball from the breakdown, in the second half I thought that it was there for them. The wee scrum half was terrific, made some great breaks that they should have capitalised on. If they had not missed a few very kick able penalties they would have won."

Of the u20 players playing for Leinster i'd expect Loughman, Timoney, Rock, Cleary and maybe one or two others to get a serious look by the academy setup.
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hugonaut wrote:
Armchair wrote:
goreyguy wrote: Leinster miles off that missing Josh Murphy, Oisin Heffernan, Nick McCarthy, Ross Byrne, Harrison Brewer, Garry Ringrose and Billy Dardis.
Not really missing if they were never there, eligible but not selected or considered.

Rock, Carberry, Loughman etc should be able to do a job. Wouldn't be overly excited the way the 20's have performed with Leinster. Seem to be coaching by numbers no flair or excitement, with all the talent available and a professional coaching structure that have had them full time since start of July I am dissapointed
They're not selected because they all played for Ireland U20s as U19s or [in Brewer's case] are injured. They're all eligible to play this year, so they really are missing. To say otherwise is bizarre.
Dardis and Heffernan played very little rugby in the summer or since last Xmas really - They could have been available but were not made available and that was known pre July. Byrne & Dardis have been playing for UCD. Once they do a 6 week pre-season they are available other former Irish 20's have been playing for their clubs the last 2 weeks so to say they are missing is to say UCD are missing Rob Kearney, Jamie Heaslip etc. They were never going to play anyway, making excuses in defeat because they are not there is not valid.

As I said I am dissapointed that with the talent available that Leinster have not done better
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Most of Leinster's most talented players at this age group were not available to them, while Ulster's was aswell as some exile imports.
On the day Ulster's team had more talent and size in it and were expected to win at home.
Even so the lads almost did win, while putting in a good performance.

Have not done better?
Beat Munster and lose narrowly away to Ulster without 7 of our most talented players? :lol:
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goreyguy wrote:Most of Leinster's most talented players at this age group were not available to them, while Ulster's was aswell as some exile imports.
On the day Ulster's team had more talent and size in it and were expected to win at home.
Even so the lads almost did win, while putting in a good performance.
If sport always went along expected lines there would be no need for games. Jeez express an opinion and lads get all Pi**ed off! We are not in Russia are we? It is an internet forum is it not. Chill out
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Armchair wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Most of Leinster's most talented players at this age group were not available to them, while Ulster's was aswell as some exile imports.
On the day Ulster's team had more talent and size in it and were expected to win at home.
Even so the lads almost did win, while putting in a good performance.
If sport always went along expected lines there would be no need for games. Jeez express an opinion and lads get all Pi**ed off! We are not in Russia are we? It is an internet forum is it not. Chill out
No problem with you expressing an opinion, i'm just replying with mine along with some facts.
Ulster's team had more talent available to them and were playing at home, I was disappointed the lads couldn't get a win but i wasn't surprised considering the players missing for Leinster and by all accounts Leinster played well and could have won the game if it was not for some missed kicks.
Now they should go on to beat Connacht and finished second in the interpro's.
Which is where they side should finish considering the talent in it.
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goreyguy wrote:
Armchair wrote:
goreyguy wrote:Most of Leinster's most talented players at this age group were not available to them, while Ulster's was aswell as some exile imports.
On the day Ulster's team had more talent and size in it and were expected to win at home.
Even so the lads almost did win, while putting in a good performance.
If sport always went along expected lines there would be no need for games. Jeez express an opinion and lads get all Pi**ed off! We are not in Russia are we? It is an internet forum is it not. Chill out
No problem with you expressing an opinion, i'm just replying with mine along with some facts.
Ulster's team had more talent available to them and were playing at home, I was disappointed the lads couldn't get a win but i wasn't surprised considering the players missing for Leinster and by all accounts Leinster played well and could have won the game if it was not for some missed kicks.
Now they should go on to beat Connacht and finished second in the interpro's.
Which is where they side should finish considering the talent in it.
You would hope we beat Connacht as most of their team are Leinster schoolboys who were not rated by Leinster so went west looking for 20's rugby
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