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It is a fiver for this piece of plastic by the way
existing luas & dart smartcard holders get one for free.
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Woohoo!sarah_lennon wrote:It is a fiver for this piece of plastic by the way
existing luas & dart smartcard holders get one for free.
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If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
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Broken Wing wrote:10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
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Surely thats not how it really works ?Broken Wing wrote:If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
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It is.Leinster Exile wrote:Surely thats not how it really works ?Broken Wing wrote:If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
If you get a paper ticket - they've charged you twice!
Good that it'll work on the nitelink though, not that one uses those, capitalAFF etc!
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No, actually it won't do that. It's €2.30 if you have to ask the driver for 13 stages. €2.20 if you use the validator. Either way it's too high because the Travel 90 smartcard works out at €1.90 per journey (and works across multiple journeys).Broken Wing wrote:If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
Another mistake is that if you're approaching the end of a journey, it will still charge full fare.
The simple principle of Smart Cards (if they are supposed to live up to their name) is that they're supposed to charge you the lowest fare for any journey. If they overcharge and customers are forced to queue up anyway, then the entire purpose is redundant. At no stage in the smartcard systems in Ireland have they ever shown any interest in adhering to this principle.
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You are correct.
From Driver Validator
Shoppers City Centre Fare €0.50
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages € 2.30
From Validator on Right Hand Side
Over 13 Stages €2.20
Dublin Bus Leap Card Adult fares:How do I use my Leap Card on Dublin Bus services?
On scheduled Dublin Bus services where Staged Fares are charged you have two options for payment:
•If you are paying for 1 to 3 stages, 4 to 7 stages, 8 to 13 stages or the City Centre Fare you should place your Leap Card on the drivers Validator and state your destination. The driver will then deduct the appropriate fare from the Travel Credit on your card. No paper ticket will be issued. If you wish to pay for a companion, the driver will issue you with a ticket for their journey.
•If you are paying for a fare of over 13 stages or Outer Suburban you should Touch On at the Smartcard Validator on the right hand side as you enter the bus. The default fare of €2.20 will be deducted from your Travel Credit.
From Driver Validator
Shoppers City Centre Fare €0.50
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages € 2.30
From Validator on Right Hand Side
Over 13 Stages €2.20
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10 years wait for this abortion of a smart card set up! Words fail me!ronk wrote:No, actually it won't do that. It's €2.30 if you have to ask the driver for 13 stages. €2.20 if you use the validator. Either way it's too high because the Travel 90 smartcard works out at €1.90 per journey (and works across multiple journeys).Broken Wing wrote:If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
Another mistake is that if you're approaching the end of a journey, it will still charge full fare.
The simple principle of Smart Cards (if they are supposed to live up to their name) is that they're supposed to charge you the lowest fare for any journey. If they overcharge and customers are forced to queue up anyway, then the entire purpose is redundant. At no stage in the smartcard systems in Ireland have they ever shown any interest in adhering to this principle.
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An how are we going to be sure that the Driver has debited the correct fare, and not as Dublin Bus Management will be asking them to do, and that is ripping us off by debiting a higher fare price at every opportunity. It sure is a fraudulent way of getting their 25% fare increase in. What a rank corrupt society we live in.Broken Wing wrote:If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
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For comparison purposes, here are the standard adult fares as per the Dublin Bus website:Broken Wing wrote:Dublin Bus Leap Card Adult fares:
From Driver Validator
Shoppers City Centre Fare €0.50
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages € 2.30
From Validator on Right Hand Side
Over 13 Stages €2.20
Adult Fares
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages €2.30
So no savings on the fare and you have to queue up with those paying cash meaning after millions of euro and ten years of development the only benefit of this card for bus users is that you don't have to have exact change but to reap that reward you'll have to pay €5.
Stunning.
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Just checked and there will be a saving of 9% on Dublin Bus fares when the new fares come into play next month.
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It's really simple, if you're a regular (once a week plus, but not a taxsaver) user of the bus then you should go down the shops and clear them out of Travel 90 10 journey smartcards. €3 per 10 journeys.Hornet wrote:10 years wait for this abortion of a smart card set up! Words fail me!ronk wrote:No, actually it won't do that. It's €2.30 if you have to ask the driver for 13 stages. €2.20 if you use the validator. Either way it's too high because the Travel 90 smartcard works out at €1.90 per journey (and works across multiple journeys).Broken Wing wrote:If you want to use the leap card on a bus you can either swipe it on the card reader on the right as you enter the bus and be charged the maximum fare or queue up with those paying in cash, put your card on the driver's reader and state your destination to have the correct fare deducted.
10 years work and they couldn't get a tag on tag off system on the bus.
Another mistake is that if you're approaching the end of a journey, it will still charge full fare.
The simple principle of Smart Cards (if they are supposed to live up to their name) is that they're supposed to charge you the lowest fare for any journey. If they overcharge and customers are forced to queue up anyway, then the entire purpose is redundant. At no stage in the smartcard systems in Ireland have they ever shown any interest in adhering to this principle.
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They have to pay for those trips to Singapore, Melbourne and Hong Kong with stays in 5 star hotels, when they were doing their research. I will just continue to use the Travel90 and Rambler tickets rather than be ripped off. I suspect that many people will have no idea that they will be stitched up when they use their dumb card for short journeys and multi service journeys. You really couldn't make this sort of cr@p up, and still be considered as progressive society. This has all the hallmarks of a committee decision with no regard to what people want, and is a far away from European Cities Public Transport ticketing best practices as you can get. Just re-inforces my perception of the higher up the Managerial ladder you go, the thicker you become, because you have to have a serious set of bozo's to come up with such a dog's dinner of a set up as this "smart" card is.Broken Wing wrote:For comparison purposes, here are the standard adult fares as per the Dublin Bus website:Broken Wing wrote:Dublin Bus Leap Card Adult fares:
From Driver Validator
Shoppers City Centre Fare €0.50
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages € 2.30
From Validator on Right Hand Side
Over 13 Stages €2.20
Adult Fares
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages €2.30
So no savings on the fare and you have to queue up with those paying cash meaning after millions of euro and ten years of development the only benefit of this card for bus users is that you don't have to have exact change but to reap that reward you'll have to pay €5.
Stunning.
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Sean Quinn's wife saying she didn't know what she was signing up to with the various loans etc....despite be a director of 60 odd companies and numerous company secretarial roles .
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Jim Mansfield's son said the same thing about a €5 million loan from AIB. He shouldn't have to pay it back because he has the reading ability of a six-year old and didn't understand the terms of the loansheepshagger wrote:Sean Quinn's wife saying she didn't know what she was signing up to with the various loans etc....despite be a director of 60 odd companies and numerous company secretarial roles .
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The IRFU's new policy in relation to NIQ players. Genuinely bonkers.
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I can testify that the "Discounts" line, on the leap card, is a load of b*%&!x.Broken Wing wrote:For comparison purposes, here are the standard adult fares as per the Dublin Bus website:Broken Wing wrote:Dublin Bus Leap Card Adult fares:
From Driver Validator
Shoppers City Centre Fare €0.50
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages € 2.30
From Validator on Right Hand Side
Over 13 Stages €2.20
Adult Fares
Stages 1 – 3 €1.20
Stages 4 – 7 €1.65
Stages 8 – 13 €1.85
Over 13 Stages €2.30
So no savings on the fare and you have to queue up with those paying cash meaning after millions of euro and ten years of development the only benefit of this card for bus users is that you don't have to have exact change but to reap that reward you'll have to pay €5.
Stunning.
I saw the new fares advertised on the bus this morning. The leap card fare is up 5-10 cent on what you currently pay. However, there are huge penalties for those paying cash.
e.g. the Current €1.65 fare will increase to €1.70 for leap card users, but for those paying cash it's being increased up to €1.95.
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ronk wrote: It's really simple, if you're a regular (once a week plus, but not a taxsaver) user of the bus then you should go down the shops and clear them out of Travel 90 10 journey smartcards. €3 per 10 journeys.
They must be phasing those out, are they?
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No. They are supposed to be adding them to the Leap Card in the future. All the time they have had to introduce these at the start and they failed to do it. Morons.Leinsterman wrote:ronk wrote: It's really simple, if you're a regular (once a week plus, but not a taxsaver) user of the bus then you should go down the shops and clear them out of Travel 90 10 journey smartcards. €3 per 10 journeys.
They must be phasing those out, are they?
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