Ireland 6Ns 2020
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Ireland 6Ns 2020
With a view to the future.
15. Larmour
14. Stockdale
13. Ringrose
12. Farrell/Henshaw
11. Lowe
10. Carberry
9. Cooney
1. O'Sullivan/Porter
2. Scannell
3. Furlong
4. Ryan
5. Henderson
6. Stander
7. VDF
8. Conan
Bench
Hooker (Connacht?)
Porter/O'Sullivan
Moore
SR (Connacht?)
Deegan
Marmion/JGP
Carty/Byrne
Conway
PS nicked a few ideas from LRIP
15. Larmour
14. Stockdale
13. Ringrose
12. Farrell/Henshaw
11. Lowe
10. Carberry
9. Cooney
1. O'Sullivan/Porter
2. Scannell
3. Furlong
4. Ryan
5. Henderson
6. Stander
7. VDF
8. Conan
Bench
Hooker (Connacht?)
Porter/O'Sullivan
Moore
SR (Connacht?)
Deegan
Marmion/JGP
Carty/Byrne
Conway
PS nicked a few ideas from LRIP
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I suppose its all idle speculation cos we’ve no idea what way Head Coach Farrell will want them to play
Im a big fan of Cooney though. Would love to see him & Carbery playing together as you have them there
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Im a big fan of Cooney though. Would love to see him & Carbery playing together as you have them there
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John Cooney is 29. A year younger than Murray and 2-3 years older than Marmion/McGrath.
Playing well for Ulster but I'm not sure why he should be parachuted in to #1 now, particularly if we're 'building for the future'.
I think the big changes will be Larmour to 15, Scannell to 2 and potentially Kilcoyne and Healy to become a much closer battle.
Lowe coming in will be a big boost also.
Playing well for Ulster but I'm not sure why he should be parachuted in to #1 now, particularly if we're 'building for the future'.
I think the big changes will be Larmour to 15, Scannell to 2 and potentially Kilcoyne and Healy to become a much closer battle.
Lowe coming in will be a big boost also.
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Jeee Zus. Shut the door. Where did the time go?wixfjord wrote:John Cooney is 29
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What's the penalty for fielding an ineligible player?wixfjord wrote:John Cooney is 29. A year younger than Murray and 2-3 years older than Marmion/McGrath.
Playing well for Ulster but I'm not sure why he should be parachuted in to #1 now, particularly if we're 'building for the future'.
I think the big changes will be Larmour to 15, Scannell to 2 and potentially Kilcoyne and Healy to become a much closer battle.
Lowe coming in will be a big boost also.
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I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
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That's Leinster screwed for that season anyway.backrower8 wrote:I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
McGrath won't be in 23 even, his pass is too unreliable.
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Care to suggest a team yourself?Oldschool wrote:That's Leinster screwed for that season anyway.backrower8 wrote:I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
McGrath won't be in 23 even, his pass is too unreliable.
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You're a tad myopic there hard to ignore the potential of Casey, Hodnett, Baloucoune et albackrower8 wrote:Care to suggest a team yourself?Oldschool wrote:That's Leinster screwed for that season anyway.backrower8 wrote:I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
McGrath won't be in 23 even, his pass is too unreliable.
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Not to mention guys already in the squad who will be 30/31 come 2023 like Farrell, Marmion, Henderson, Scannell, Beirne.
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I agree Lowe isn't eligible. Thats about it.backrower8 wrote:I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
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Lowe will be eligible in 2023 and he might not even get selected.ronk wrote:I agree Lowe isn't eligible. Thats about it.backrower8 wrote:I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
Of the team suggested.
Porter Sheehan Furlong as is
Threadwell Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris, (Beirne if Leavy doesn't make it)
Casey/Cooney Carberry
Lowe Henshaw Farrell Ringrose
Larmour.
Ringrose has everything and would totally tie up one wing defensively. Not this season but next as the next guys get the necessary experience and Carberry is bedded in.
Similar argument for Casey/Cooney re timing.
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I love how everyone has jumped on the Porter back to LH train. Not happening folks
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Given he played there at this RWC it might actually happen. There are some examples of props who regularly or at least occasionally switch back and forth between loose and tighthead (Mulipola, Jenkins, Slimani, Bealham, Bent, Heinke van der Merwe, Ollie le Roux, CJ van der Linde, Jason Leonard, etc). It's not necessarily impossible.Peg Leg wrote:I love how everyone has jumped on the Porter back to LH train. Not happening folks
And it is much easier to go from tighthead to loosehead than the other way around.
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Possible, yes. In his interest or the interest of Leinster or Irish rugby: no. It's a handy trick for a RWC but not essential then.neiliog93 wrote:Given he played there at this RWC it might actually happen. There are some examples of props who regularly or at least occasionally switch back and forth between loose and tighthead (Mulipola, Jenkins, Slimani, Bealham, Bent, Heinke van der Merwe, Ollie le Roux, CJ van der Linde, Jason Leonard, etc). It's not necessarily impossible.Peg Leg wrote:I love how everyone has jumped on the Porter back to LH train. Not happening folks
And it is much easier to go from tighthead to loosehead than the other way around.
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No doubt my selection isn’t perfect. Looking forward to seeing your selection.Peg Leg wrote:You're a tad myopic there hard to ignore the potential of Casey, Hodnett, Baloucoune et al
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Put a team up and show us what you think and how strongly you disagree.ronk wrote:I agree Lowe isn't eligible. Thats about it.backrower8 wrote:I think this team is close to what I would like to see in 2020 6N, however Lowe isn't eligible until the Autumn.
I think we should cut Johnny completely (Rob too) but he is in the first year of a 2 year central contract...how did that happen?
I agree with moving Porter back to Loose, our need is greater there.
Murray, POM and possibly Henderson should be dropped and required to play their way back to form.
Most of all Stockdale should be dropped, sure he wasn't given much good ball this tournament, but without the ball he is a total amateur in his approach...far too laid back and does not appearing to be learning well on the job. He enabled two tries yesterday with bad reads.
2023 Team
Porter D Sheehan Furlong
Baird Ryan
Leavy Deegan Doris
McGrath H. Byrne
Lowe Henshaw Ringrose Stockdale
Carberry
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It wouldn't surprise me if it happened in a few years but I don't see him moving back for at least a couple of seasons.ronk wrote:Possible, yes. In his interest or the interest of Leinster or Irish rugby: no. It's a handy trick for a RWC but not essential then.neiliog93 wrote:Given he played there at this RWC it might actually happen. There are some examples of props who regularly or at least occasionally switch back and forth between loose and tighthead (Mulipola, Jenkins, Slimani, Bealham, Bent, Heinke van der Merwe, Ollie le Roux, CJ van der Linde, Jason Leonard, etc). It's not necessarily impossible.Peg Leg wrote:I love how everyone has jumped on the Porter back to LH train. Not happening folks
And it is much easier to go from tighthead to loosehead than the other way around.
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D Sheehan at hooker. Who he?
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Dan Sheehan. Academy player. Playing Trinity 1sts last 2 seasons. Aged 21 (September), 1.91m/ 6ft 3 // 110kg/ 17 stone 5lbs. Joint-top try scorer (7) for Leinster-A so far this season .tomthefan wrote:D Sheehan at hooker. Who he?
8 months younger, 3 inches taller and a stone heavier than Kelleher. I am not saying he is better, but he is probably in the same class.