Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
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- Rhys Ruddock
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Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
I'd hope to see a strong team go over with a small amount of rotation for Northampton next week. Some of the frontliners need minutes, others probably need to be managed.
1-23: Dooley, Treacey, Furlong, Dev, Fardy, Ruddock, Connors, Doris/Deegan, McGrath, Byrne, Kelleher, Henshaw, O'Brien, Byrne, Rob K, Byrne, Bent, Porter, Baird, Penny, JGP, Sexton, Larmour.
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1-23: Dooley, Treacey, Furlong, Dev, Fardy, Ruddock, Connors, Doris/Deegan, McGrath, Byrne, Kelleher, Henshaw, O'Brien, Byrne, Rob K, Byrne, Bent, Porter, Baird, Penny, JGP, Sexton, Larmour.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Considering Glasgow are conference mates of ours I'd like to see us going similarly strong too.
I'd go with:
Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Dev, Molony, Rhys, Connors, Deegan, JGP, Byrne, DK, Henshaw, ROL, Byrne, Keenan
Dooley, Tracy, Furlong, Fardy, Doris, McGrath, Frawley, JOB
I think Porter should be given the start and I think the plastic pitch might mean we stick the Byrne twins in to give us a bit of extra carrying.
Max needs game time at 8 if he's going to be there for Northampton too.
I'd go with:
Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Dev, Molony, Rhys, Connors, Deegan, JGP, Byrne, DK, Henshaw, ROL, Byrne, Keenan
Dooley, Tracy, Furlong, Fardy, Doris, McGrath, Frawley, JOB
I think Porter should be given the start and I think the plastic pitch might mean we stick the Byrne twins in to give us a bit of extra carrying.
Max needs game time at 8 if he's going to be there for Northampton too.
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
I'd be much more conservative to be honest. The league is a marathon, not a sprint. I'd leave out all our European starters bar those that need match fitness.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
I like the look of this team. I’m a bit concerned about our form but I still think we can’t risk too many HC starters with the two Northampton games coming up. There’ll be some bruised bodies coming back from France after the slugfest yesterdaywixfjord wrote:Considering Glasgow are conference mates of ours I'd like to see us going similarly strong too.
I'd go with:
Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Dev, Molony, Rhys, Connors, Deegan, JGP, Byrne, DK, Henshaw, ROL, Byrne, Keenan
Dooley, Tracy, Furlong, Fardy, Doris, McGrath, Frawley, JOB
I think Porter should be given the start and I think the plastic pitch might mean we stick the Byrne twins in to give us a bit of extra carrying.
Max needs game time at 8 if he's going to be there for Northampton too.
I do think we need to be open-minded about form though. If someone like, say, Connors goes over to Glasgow and has another stormer he should be considered for the following week.
Just to expand a little on our form; I know we won all three of Zebre, Benetton and Lyon, and that two were away, but having watching Ireland’s agonising decline this year I don’t think we can just assume that normal service will resume in the bigger games. If someone isn’t performing they can’t be allowed to coast on reputation. I hope this is being hammered home in training
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Considering the next three games after this are the back to backs with our biggest rivals for our champions cup group followed by a game against our nearest rivals in our conference I think fringe players with some academy lads is the way to go here. Glasgow could be tempted to rest a few of their players and have been awful this year when missing lads at the World Cup.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Can Connors cover any positions apart from 7? I see your point, but VDF deserves to keep his starting position for the Northampton game (should have been MOTM yesterday) and he's the least likely of the backrow that would need to be replaced.Twist wrote:I like the look of this team. I’m a bit concerned about our form but I still think we can’t risk too many HC starters with the two Northampton games coming up. There’ll be some bruised bodies coming back from France after the slugfest yesterdaywixfjord wrote:Considering Glasgow are conference mates of ours I'd like to see us going similarly strong too.
I'd go with:
Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Dev, Molony, Rhys, Connors, Deegan, JGP, Byrne, DK, Henshaw, ROL, Byrne, Keenan
Dooley, Tracy, Furlong, Fardy, Doris, McGrath, Frawley, JOB
I think Porter should be given the start and I think the plastic pitch might mean we stick the Byrne twins in to give us a bit of extra carrying.
Max needs game time at 8 if he's going to be there for Northampton too.
I do think we need to be open-minded about form though. If someone like, say, Connors goes over to Glasgow and has another stormer he should be considered for the following week.
Just to expand a little on our form; I know we won all three of Zebre, Benetton and Lyon, and that two were away, but having watching Ireland’s agonising decline this year I don’t think we can just assume that normal service will resume in the bigger games. If someone isn’t performing they can’t be allowed to coast on reputation. I hope this is being hammered home in training
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Resting players with no form makes sod all sense to me. I'd play the lot of them and fit in a rest after the back-to-backs.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
The next two Gabe’s after the back to backs are Ulster and Munster.Logorrhea wrote:Resting players with no form makes sod all sense to me. I'd play the lot of them and fit in a rest after the back-to-backs.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Well we always send the kids out for the away interpro v Munster and we can probably expect ulster will do the same with us saving player for Connacht the next week.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Went full tilt last seasonfourthirtythree wrote:Well we always send the kids out for the away interpro v Munster and we can probably expect ulster will do the same with us saving player for Connacht the next week.
He's gotten awfully fond of that brick
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Yeah - and look how that panned out...arsebiscuits1 wrote:Went full tilt last seasonfourthirtythree wrote:Well we always send the kids out for the away interpro v Munster and we can probably expect ulster will do the same with us saving player for Connacht the next week.
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Why not? He'll give you different things.Laighin Break wrote:Can Connors cover any positions apart from 7? I see your point, but VDF deserves to keep his starting position for the Northampton game (should have been MOTM yesterday) and he's the least likely of the backrow that would need to be replaced.Twist wrote:I like the look of this team. I’m a bit concerned about our form but I still think we can’t risk too many HC starters with the two Northampton games coming up. There’ll be some bruised bodies coming back from France after the slugfest yesterdaywixfjord wrote:Considering Glasgow are conference mates of ours I'd like to see us going similarly strong too.
I'd go with:
Byrne, Byrne, Porter, Dev, Molony, Rhys, Connors, Deegan, JGP, Byrne, DK, Henshaw, ROL, Byrne, Keenan
Dooley, Tracy, Furlong, Fardy, Doris, McGrath, Frawley, JOB
I think Porter should be given the start and I think the plastic pitch might mean we stick the Byrne twins in to give us a bit of extra carrying.
Max needs game time at 8 if he's going to be there for Northampton too.
I do think we need to be open-minded about form though. If someone like, say, Connors goes over to Glasgow and has another stormer he should be considered for the following week.
Just to expand a little on our form; I know we won all three of Zebre, Benetton and Lyon, and that two were away, but having watching Ireland’s agonising decline this year I don’t think we can just assume that normal service will resume in the bigger games. If someone isn’t performing they can’t be allowed to coast on reputation. I hope this is being hammered home in training
You might want a jumping 8 like Conan or Deegan (or Doris). It would be useful to add some hefty ball carriers elsewhere.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
riocard911 wrote:Yeah - and look how that panned out...arsebiscuits1 wrote:Went full tilt last seasonfourthirtythree wrote:Well we always send the kids out for the away interpro v Munster and we can probably expect ulster will do the same with us saving player for Connacht the next week.
I don't remember, I stopped watching rugby around last Christmas and only just started again. It must have been great though as past performance IS a guarantee of future performance isn't it?
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
What is your point here? Are you trying to imply we shouldn't put our strongest team possible out for big games?riocard911 wrote:Yeah - and look how that panned out...arsebiscuits1 wrote:Went full tilt last seasonfourthirtythree wrote:Well we always send the kids out for the away interpro v Munster and we can probably expect ulster will do the same with us saving player for Connacht the next week.
He's gotten awfully fond of that brick
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
its all we need really!!fourthirtythree wrote:Well we always send the kids out for the away interpro v Munster and we can probably expect ulster will do the same with us saving player for Connacht the next week.
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Pretty sure that Leo has said that the RWC players will be getting a break over Xmas/New Year.
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
In answer to your question, arsebiscuits1:
My point is one should be careful in one's choice of battles. I'd rather send the kids to Limerick and let them gain valuable experience and maybe pull off a surprise win, than send my first choice line-up down and have them end up losing. In terms of continuity and maintaining momentum, I would think it's the better way to go. Last Xmas' match in Thomond is proof of that thesis, IMO.
My point is one should be careful in one's choice of battles. I'd rather send the kids to Limerick and let them gain valuable experience and maybe pull off a surprise win, than send my first choice line-up down and have them end up losing. In terms of continuity and maintaining momentum, I would think it's the better way to go. Last Xmas' match in Thomond is proof of that thesis, IMO.
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Who are referring to when we talk of 'the kids' now? Hugo Keenan? Josh Murphy? Will Connors? I'm fine with sending them to Limerick. Remember the wailing when we sent out Dan Leavy et al? That came to look stupid pretty quickly.
Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
No new injuries. McFadden, Tomane and O’Loughlin all back in training this week. Cronin still not available
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Re: Glasgow vs Leinster 30/11/2019
Yep I think a Christmas derby in Thomond is the absolute perfect place to give hungry guys like Doris, Connors, Keenan, JOB, R. Kelleher a start.
Maybe not all of them but a side with a mix of them would be great to see.
I don't want to see us full strength down there.
If you look at the side that won there a few years back (with Leavy, ROL, Larmour etc) it seemed to really bring on a few of them.
Maybe not all of them but a side with a mix of them would be great to see.
I don't want to see us full strength down there.
If you look at the side that won there a few years back (with Leavy, ROL, Larmour etc) it seemed to really bring on a few of them.